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New Trace Elliot 1200 amp !

Check out this little mock-up someone made!!

Pretty sweet idea!

My only criticism is that I would move the compressor controls to where the logo is currently, because those sliders will need to be bigger, particularly if each slider is a big dB sweep, as that would be very difficult to fine-tune-- even with a watch-maker's or diamond-cutter's motor control skills!
 

Wasn't there something in the Christian bible about someone knocking down a wall with a trumpet? Looks like you guys traded trumpets for a wall of Hartke awesomeness. :bassist:

I'd never sit near a wall if I went to your church. :eek:

(Actually, my mama says I'd catch on fire just walking by one. :( )
 
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Wasn't there something in the Christian bible about someone knocking down a wall with a trumpet? Looks like you guys traded trumpets for a wall of Hartke awesomeness. :bassist:

I'd never sit near a wall if I went to your church. :eek:

(Actually, my mama says I'd catch on fire just walking by one. :( )
Hey mate, I was just up in your neck of the woods last week! I drove up to Burlington, NC to meet a friend last Thursday (bypassing Fayetteville, but close enough).

Ah yes, the walls of Jericho. Much different from our "wall of sound" and so far our building's walls are still standing so no worries there. And I have yet to see someone spontaneously combust - that would be scary! I think God is giving everyone all the chances He can before everything is wrapped up (in other words, He's not going around randomly combusting people or causing walls to fall on them). :laugh: IIRC, the people Jesus got most upset with were the religious people of his day!

Anyway, Psalm 150:5 says to praise Him with loud and clanging cymbals, so our drummer definitely obliges (so I figure a loud bass amp is also included) and Psalm 144:9 says to praise Him with an instrument of 10 strings. I started on a 4 stringed bass, eventually moved to 5, and now own two 6ers and two 7 string basses - so I'm working my way up. :smug:

Here's a short clip from our last concert:
 
My 10-string recommendation, for that “wall of sound” approach:

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Hey mate, I was just up in your neck of the woods last week! I drove up to Burlington, NC to meet a friend last Thursday (bypassing Fayetteville, but close enough).

Ah yes, the walls of Jericho. Much different from our "wall of sound" and so far our building's walls are still standing so no worries there. And I have yet to see someone spontaneously combust - that would be scary! I think God is giving everyone all the chances He can before everything is wrapped up (in other words, He's not going around randomly combusting people or causing walls to fall on them). :laugh: IIRC, the people Jesus got most upset with were the religious people of his day!

Anyway, Psalm 150:5 says to praise Him with loud and clanging cymbals, so our drummer definitely obliges (so I figure a loud bass amp is also included) and Psalm 144:9 says to praise Him with an instrument of 10 strings. I started on a 4 stringed bass, eventually moved to 5, and now own two 6ers and two 7 string basses - so I'm working my way up. :smug:

Here's a short clip from our last concert:


Bypassing Fayettenam is always the best choice. I wish I could. The spousal-unit is still in the Army. :(

I remember going to a mega church about 20 yrs ago in Greensboro. Didn't know it was a church when invited ... got scammed. :laugh:
But I was amazed at the equipment. The guitarist played a goldtop Les Paul thru a huge pedalboard into a Marshall full stack. Bassist had a wall of Ampeg and played a five-string. I didn't even know five-string basses existed. I was still a lead player back then. And was also surprised they were playing 'Christian Metal'. Never had heard of such a thing.

And oddly enough, my Buddhist azz didn't catch on fire. It did get kinda hot, though. I probably left just in time. :D
 
So I picked up the new TE 1200.
For starters I currently own:

Ashdown ABM 600
Ashdown ABM 600 Dual Meter
Ampeg V4B
Mesa Subway D800+

The Mesa has been getting all of the gigging time the past year or so. I have absolutely NO need for the TE, but then again I also have NO need for 7 Spector Euros either. Lol.

At any rate the amp looks and sounds incredible. I was a little skeptical due to the $999 price tag but it actually does just great compared to the other heads I own and may become my #1 gig rig.

VERY easy to dial in something killer and super transparent. Of course there is the TE secret sauce button which I never cared for anyway but if you are into that, it’s straight up Trace! The dual band onboard comp is sweet and easy to dial up. I’ve found I prefer it post EQ as Pre EQ really makes things thin quickly.

Bottom line is that it is SERIOUSLY powered and it sounds incredible and is simple. Here’s a few shots:

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Can this 1200 watt amp be combined with a 600watt 4 ohm can without any problems? Can a higher watt amp damage a lower watt cab? I always get confused with these things.
You’ll only cause damage if you are careless with the output level on the amp.
I run a 1000W head into a nominal 500W cab and it’s absolutely fine.
If it sounds bad, turn down until it doesn’t. And if that doesn’t provide enough volume, get two 8 ohm cabs instead, with more drivers for more air movement :)
 
You’ll only cause damage if you are careless with the output level on the amp.
I run a 1000W head into a nominal 500W cab and it’s absolutely fine.
If it sounds bad, turn down until it doesn’t. And if that doesn’t provide enough volume, get two 8 ohm cabs instead, with more drivers for more air movement :)

So what would be the ideal amp wattage for a single 600watt 4 ohm cab?
Is that a 600 watt amp?
 
So what would be the ideal amp wattage for a single 600watt 4 ohm cab?
Is that a 600 watt amp?
Honestly unless it’s insanely OTT like a 2kW power amp I wouldn’t worry too much. Just be sensible with the volume control :)
My 1000W head produces 500W into 8 ohms (according to the manual) and my 8 ohm cab is nominally rated to 250W. Again, just being sensible means it’s never a problem.
 
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Can this 1200 watt amp be combined with a 600watt 4 ohm can without any problems? Can a higher watt amp damage a lower watt cab? I always get confused with these things.
It certainly can be used, but likewise it certainly can damage the cabinet unless you are very careful not to overdrive the cabinet. Being able to hear a cabinet being damaged is not as easy as some here suggests especially if you use in overdrive pedal as part of your sound.

Also, it depends on the cabinet and how it’s rated. 600 watts without stating if it’s RMS means that it may use a peak power metric which is numerically double that of the same cabinet rated using RMS metrics.

Another factor is that most cabinets are rated using thermal power handling yet most failures are due to exceeding the mechanical limits of the speaker. This may occur at as low as 1/2 of the thermal power rating of the cabinet.

Therefore, it depends…
 
It certainly can be used, but likewise it certainly can damage the cabinet unless you are very careful not to overdrive the cabinet. Being able to hear a cabinet being damaged is not as easy as some here suggests especially if you use in overdrive pedal as part of your sound.

Also, it depends on the cabinet and how it’s rated. 600 watts without stating if it’s RMS means that it may use a peak power metric which is numerically double that of the same cabinet rated using RMS metrics.

Another factor is that most cabinets are rated using thermal power handling yet most failures are due to exceeding the mechanical limits of the speaker. This may occur at as low as 1/2 of the thermal power rating of the cabinet.

Therefore, it depends…

Its a Bergantino AE212, 600 watt RMS cab. Still looking for the right head.
 
Its a Bergantino AE212, 600 watt RMS cab. Still looking for the right head.
Great cabinet, I wouldn't want to risk damaging it without better understanding the risk. Just use good common sense and judgement and you should be ok.
 
Looks like we’ll be getting a Bass Gear Magazine review of this rig pretty soon :D
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Indeed! :thumbsup: So, the rig arrives literally right before the show, and the first time I even powered it up was at sound check. Yes, I did have another rig (that I know and trust) on hand, just in case, but I have to say, I was very impressed. Playing at the Midwest Rhythm Summit, there are naturally a good number of bass players (and sound technicians) in attendance, and I heard universal praise for the tone of the Trace rig, even compared to the other bass rig (that aforementioned rig I know and trust) used by one of the other bands (which has a bass player who puts me to shame in his sleep!). I ran it with the tone controls set "flat" and no compression, low Gain, higher Master Volume, and it just sounded "right" out of the gate. Of course, that lovely Lull MV4 didn't hurt! :bassist: :bassist: :bassist: :thumbsup:
 
Indeed! :thumbsup: So, the rig arrives literally right before the show, and the first time I even powered it up was at sound check. Yes, I did have another rig (that I know and trust) on hand, just in case, but I have to say, I was very impressed. Playing at the Midwest Rhythm Summit, there are naturally a good number of bass players (and sound technicians) in attendance, and I heard universal praise for the tone of the Trace rig, even compared to the other bass rig (that aforementioned rig I know and trust) used by one of the other bands (which has a bass player who puts me to shame in his sleep!). I ran it with the tone controls set "flat" and no compression, low Gain, higher Master Volume, and it just sounded "right" out of the gate. Of course, that lovely Lull MV4 didn't hurt! :bassist: :bassist: :bassist: :thumbsup:



Glad you are digging the rig! Can't wait for you to hear the 2 x 12 cabinet, when you combine the 410 with the 212 it's amazing.
 

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