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New Traynor YBA 100!!
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This thread finally got me to make a talkbass account. I use a Yba-1 (1972) through a Bergantino HT210 as my practice amp. I am happy with the tones but want more headroom because I am starting a band with a drummer.
Traynors seem to have a unique tone. I think mine sounds like a less compressed, slightly darker, Fender Bassman. Am I wrong to assume I'll get a similar sound from the YBA 100, which is 50 years newer?
Traynors seem to have a unique tone. I think mine sounds like a less compressed, slightly darker, Fender Bassman. Am I wrong to assume I'll get a similar sound from the YBA 100, which is 50 years newer?
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I would be interested in this answer as I cant remember the exact tone of the YBA-1. Similar genetics. I tried the YBA100 with a couple of different cabs and do think a pair of 12's, a pair of 15's, a 610 or an 810 cab would give plenty of volume with a drummer for many situations. An HT210 may only give enough volume for light gigs. If it is 8 ohms, then add a 15 or a 12 or another 210 and the SPL should be enough for most any PA supported gig.
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My MTD KAG5 repair was completed yesterday, so I finally got a chance to play it through a YBA100 on the sales floor, first through a TC410-4 and then through the TC1510.
I wasn't a fan of the 1510 when it came out with the YBA200, but it was definitely the better cab of the two with the YBA100...definite winner (which I already knew, but this cemented it)...it was tough going back to my desk after that little musical break...
I wasn't a fan of the 1510 when it came out with the YBA200, but it was definitely the better cab of the two with the YBA100...definite winner (which I already knew, but this cemented it)...it was tough going back to my desk after that little musical break...
Tried one out today. My rehearsal space kills alot of low end and has some nasty boom to it, so take this with a grain of salt. The yba100 didn't have enough power to cut through with any authority when running into 2 mesa subway 115s (comparing it to a gk mb500). I play in a pretty heavy rock band, and a doom/hardcore band. Sounds great at lower volume though. The bass frequencies sounds full and rich when its run a bit more tame. Gets a bit messy instead of 'grindy' when the gain and master are cranked up. That is, unless you turn the bass way down.. but then you loose all the meat! Not my thing, but it definitely has a place.
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In evaluating whether any particular wattage amp will work for any particular scenario, I would like to remind that the SPL from a 100W amp is entirely depended on the efficiency of the cab/driver combination. I tested the YBA100 with a 15 and a 12 I have that was designed for low extension and it wasnt nearly as subjectively loud as another 15 cab as well as a different 212 cab. If a player has 1200 watts at their disposal, this is not generally a consideration. But will be with a 100 watt amp. One of the combinations I tested was definitely IMO loud enough to gig with a drummer whereas the other combination IMO was not. And I play loud, and do have a 1200 watt amp as well. Mostly, for me, my YBA100 is for my studio, although I can see taking it to blues gigs as I do like tube amp characteristics for blues. That is, if the pandemic lightens up and gigs ever become a thing again.
Curious as to whether an adjustable HPF would give you more of what you want, without stealing the limited resources that the amp can deliver? When I hear boom , I think HPF.
Fishheadjoe
Seriously, I can't find any information about this amp except Traynor's website and here
I can say a HPF, will give you the ability to dial out most of the offending boom, wasn't a believer, till I bought a Fdeck HPF, now it's in my gig kit, and I use it all the time, and yes, I use it with my Traynor YBA-3, it's money well spent
Lowendtech
Happily trending in my own peculiar direction.
Broughton RFE works great as does the Studio One but any of his HPF offerings are stellar.
I have the Broughton always on adjustable on my pedal board.
Fishheadjoe
Fishheadjoe
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That's a great suggestion. And honestly, my goal here isn't to discourage anyone from purchasing this amp. It sounds great for many applications. Just figure ill share my experience in case anyone else who plays sludgy/doomy music is looking for potential red flags / things to test before buying.
My experience on that front: I used a graphic eq to mimic that utility to see where it landed me. I know its not really the same as a dedicated HPF, but I was curious on how cutting bass would affect the breakup characteristics of the amp. I still wasn't 100% thrilled with the result, and it defeated one of the benefits of grabbing a tube amp vs. Using solid state with an always on overdrive... less pedals on the floor ( I know. I know. Big pedalboards are awesome and nothing to be ashamed of. I just like things small and tidy)
That's a great suggestion. And honestly, my goal here isn't to discourage anyone from purchasing this amp. It sounds great for many applications. Just figure ill share my experience in case anyone else who plays sludgy/doomy music is looking for potential red flags / things to test before buying.
My experience on that front: I used a graphic eq to mimic that utility to see where it landed me. I know its not really the same as a dedicated HPF, but I was curious on how cutting bass would affect the breakup characteristics of the amp. I still wasn't 100% thrilled with the result, and it defeated one of the benefits of grabbing a tube amp vs. Using solid state with an always on overdrive... less pedals on the floor ( I know. I know. Big pedalboards are awesome and nothing to be ashamed of. I just like things small and tidy)
In my experience (running a Marshall VBA400 into a Berg 6x10) my amp is to my ear significantly louder with HPF as I am not using huge amounts of power to re-create UN-usable frequencies. So, my thinking with the YBA100 is that it may well work with a gorilla drummer once properly set up for the room and stage. You can then bring up the bass frequencies on the amp to fill out the sound.
Fishheadjoe
Fishheadjoe
HPF's are an invaluable tool when used in conjunction with a tube amp, as tube amps usually deliver more sub-sonic (like below 80hZ) output.
In my view, the amp is what it is. 100 tube watts does have its limitations, but I have gigged a V4B with great results. Usually it comes down to speaker sensitivity choices and the number of speakers, as has already been mentioned. I have no doubt this amp would be a good choice for me.
Just another data point:
I had a V4B with a 2x15 cabinet loaded with Altec 421's.
It sounded really great but was not always enough with a hard hitting drummer in a rock scenario assuming you want clean and loud. I think most 100 watt tube bass amps will get significantly louder when driven to distortion.
I had a V4B with a 2x15 cabinet loaded with Altec 421's.
It sounded really great but was not always enough with a hard hitting drummer in a rock scenario assuming you want clean and loud. I think most 100 watt tube bass amps will get significantly louder when driven to distortion.
Yeah so after some 15 or so years I finally got around to register here. Because of this. Do anyone have any news on if and when Traynor are planning to make a 240v run of these? And any news about european dealers?
I will add to this narrative. Even just jamming alone in the basement with the neo115 I know it won't be enough for loud bands unless you have PA support. That said I think it sounds fantastic!!! Pretty much the tone in my head I've been trying to achieve with pedals and SS heads for the past few years. It does get very "grindy/farty" at higher gain settings but it does remind me of those nasty RATM live tones... I dig it!
I also have a BA always on HPF in my pedal drawer which I completely forgot about. Thanks for the reminder! It may finally have a use on the board.
I also have a BA always on HPF in my pedal drawer which I completely forgot about. Thanks for the reminder! It may finally have a use on the board.
Yes, they can be easily converted to 240V. I suggest you contact your dealer or yorkville directly for more info re: dealers.
