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New Traynor YBA 100!!
- Thread starter qwench
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The number written on the master dial are conterclock wise of the hour of the police call of the neighbors...
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They are indeed dimed. I generally play with a very light touch and am getting tube saturation galore. If I dig in on the right hand I can push it into as much or as little overdrive as I want. I can go all out chainsaw too but that doesn’t really suit me. Lowering the gain to 2 o’clock doesn’t drop much volume to be honest but does change the tone quite a bit. It’s got a lot of natural compression.
At these settings, with this cab it’s giggable for the crap holes I used to play in without pa support and will keep up with a drummer. Like I said moderate volume from a 100W tube head into a 410. I’d love to rip this amp through an 810. But that’s even more overkill for jamming in the playroom with family. I just like tube tone.
Wow! I can see a YBA300 in someone's future.
I’d hit that.
Seriously. If I ever get into gigging again, it would be on my short list especially if I could get one at decent price. This is a pretty interesting amp.
The LM webpage lists the amp for 899 CAD.
Does it mean that the shipping costs and customs/taxes almost doubled the price of the amp?
Nah, I payed an earlybird price probably, 850. I can't find any additional costs ...
That would be great, if LM delivered to Europe with no additional shipping costs...and the delivery would be free of customs and taxes.
But it sounds to good to be true...
The sender is not responsible for customs and taxes, you are. (I can not comment on shipping, that's their decision of course.) Anyway, your taxes should be the standard VAT in your country, should be 21% in Czech Republic, right? Customs fee should hopefully be 0% as I think that's EU wide and to my best knowledge it is 0 here in Finland (for an amplifier that is.) So if you order a YBA 100 from outside EU and the seller charges you X amount for the amp and Y shipping you end up paying (X+Y)*1.21 in total. Plus currency conversion.
If your shipment somehow ends up slipping through local customs you were lucky and did not have to pay the 21% VAT.
That would be my understanding too.
The fact that SVTII apparently didn’t pay any additional costs confuses me...
Yep, correct, VAT is 21% here...
Switzerland is not in the EU so their VAT is different (much lower as far as I know) and possible customs duties between Canada and Switzerland are also independent from EU agreements. Also since SVTII quoted "850 CAD" it is my guess that these "papers" was the invoice/receipt from the seller and the taxes or customs duties if any were settled separately with the courier company or local Post/Customs officials.
The VAT also varies within the EU. In Germany it is currently 16% until the end of this year and 19% in 2021. If your are importing something you have to pay the import tax for 19% (and customs which is 3,7% for musical instruments). However, at least german customs also charge the import tax and customs on the shipping charge, which leads to:
final price = (1 + import tax + customs) * (sell price + shipping cost) * FX rate
final price = (1 + import tax + customs) * (sell price + shipping cost) * FX rate
Which is why I mentioned that I thought it was 21% in the Czech Republic
Standard VAT is 24% here in Finland. Customs duties, however, should be EU wide. This is not a musical instrument, it is an amplifier (falls under the category of "Sound and video reproduction equipment") which is 0% so you only have to pay VAT.VAT and possible customs duty is indeed added both to the value of your purchase and shipping fees and this, also, is at least EU wide, possibly a global agreement. So, if you do order both an electric bass guitar and an amp of approximately the same value from outside EU you should declare your purchases in the order of 1) amp and 2) instrument so that your additional costs will be lower (first item's price + shipping fee) x 1.16 (Germany 2020) + second item's price x 1.16 x 1.037.
Yes, but I didn't find any other papers in my chaos ;-)
Then I guess you were lucky
But we've chatted enough about taxes I think... Back to the regular YBA 100 stuff!
I checked papers for my recent purchase from Broughton Audio (another Canadian vendor).
You were correct: no custom duties, 21% VAT on both the price and shipping costs (which were 60-70 USD). Plus Czech post charged me between 8-25 EUR for the customs clearance.
Edit: altogether, it makes 55-60% rise compared to ordering from Canada...
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