New: Zoom B3n Multi-Effects

[J_Bass]

I think you can headphone out of the interface with no delay...
I use a zoom H4 and I can do that.

There are a lot of other factors that may be causing your delay. Buying a new interface may not solve your problem, so I'd make sure you try other things first. (Maybe you already have, but it sounds like you're new to this so I'm assuming not.)

Settings like sample rate and buffer size. Driver used (asio probably). Um...other things maybe? It's been a while since I've messed around with this, so I don't have a ton of ideas. And I've never done it on a Mac. But you should read up a bit and try some other things before buying a new interface, IMO.

Thanks, I'm gonna check it out!

 

[-Asdfgh-]

Thank you.

I have to do some research about the theme and about the nomenclature.

If you want to take the output of the B3n to a mixing desk over XLR (balanced) then a reasonably inexpensive passive DI will do the job. It will come with a parallel jack out to go to the amp.

If you want to split it such that you have speaker emulation to the house, but don't want the speaker emulation through your amp, I am not sure the B3n can do that (some units can - e.g. the old Behringer Bass-Vamp), but you can get some active DIs that are reasonably expensive and have speaker emulation on the XLR only, but the cheaper ones are for guitar. If you are happy with a more vintage sound, that will work, though, if it's something like a guitar 4x12 emulation. (Behringer does one).

More expensive options are, of course, available.

 

[J_Bass]

If you want to take the output of the B3n to a mixing desk over XLR (balanced) then a reasonably inexpensive passive DI will do the job. It will come with a parallel jack out to go to the amp.

If you want to split it such that you have speaker emulation to the house, but don't want the speaker emulation through your amp, I am not sure the B3n can do that (some units can - e.g. the old Behringer Bass-Vamp), but you can get some active DIs that are reasonably expensive and have speaker emulation on the XLR only, but the cheaper ones are for guitar. If you are happy with a more vintage sound, that will work, though, if it's something like a guitar 4x12 emulation. (Behringer does one).

More expensive options are, of course, available.

Thank you!

 

[-Asdfgh-]

That should have been reasonably inexpensive.

 

[woody357]

I used my B3N for the first time live last week, it was not a good experience. It’s too easy to accidentally change patches, then trying to find the ones you want again takes a little time. In one song I thought the keyboard player was playing the bass line with me but I had accidentally changed a patch and it was on reverb delay. Oh that sucked. The next time I use it I’ll take it off the floor and set it on a stand or my amp, maybe that will help.

 

[J_Bass]

I used my B3N for the first time live last week, it was not a good experience. It’s too easy to accidentally change patches, then trying to find the ones you want again takes a little time. In one song I thought the keyboard player was playing the bass line with me but I had accidentally changed a patch and it was on reverb delay. Oh that sucked. The next time I use it I’ll take it off the floor and set it on a stand or my amp, maybe that will help.

Hello. How many patches do you use during a show?


For example, if you use 5 patches.
In the computer you can easily organize the patches so that you don't have that problem.

Example: you use Patches A; B; C; D; F.

Put:
Patch A in slot 1.
Patch B in slot 4.
Patch C in slot 7.
Patch D in slot 10.
Patch F in slot 13.


Slots 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 9, 11, 12, 14, 15 remain empty.
OR
Slots 2, 3 are a repetition of 1.
Slots 5, 6 are a repetition of 4.
Etc..
OR
Slots 1, 4, 7, 10, 13 are the clean Patches, all the same, and the correspondig following numbers (2,3; 5,6; etc.) are the effects. One effect per group of 3.

This way you only have to press the pedal on the right to change Patches and you don't have to worry about juggling with 3 pedals.


Hope it helped!

 

[jimfist]

I used my B3N for the first time live last week, it was not a good experience. It’s too easy to accidentally change patches, then trying to find the ones you want again takes a little time. In one song I thought the keyboard player was playing the bass line with me but I had accidentally changed a patch and it was on reverb delay. Oh that sucked. The next time I use it I’ll take it off the floor and set it on a stand or my amp, maybe that will help.

what types of sounds, and how many fx changes do you need to make? If the effects sounds are pretty simple, you may be better served by using a single custom patch in Stompbox mode, and just switching the individual effects on/off. Any pedal you use is going to have some sort of familiarity learning curve.

 

[woody357]

what types of sounds, and how many fx changes do you need to make? If the effects sounds are pretty simple, you may be better served by using a single custom patch in Stompbox mode, and just switching the individual effects on/off. Any pedal you use is going to have some sort of familiarity learning curve.

I only used three for this gig. I don’t use a lot of effects but it was less expensive getting this with of effects available than to buy separate boxes. I had them setup so all I had to do was step on the button of the effect I wanted to use, but somehow I accidentally stepped on the black pedal and changed stuff, and I don’t remember even using the box in the previous song before I was using a effect I had no use for.

 

[SirMjac28]

I thought we were getting computer editing?

 

[Johno Dunn]

I thought we were getting computer editing?

Should roll soon, if what the girl told me is true. She showed me a screenshot, so it should be coming.

 

[SirMjac28]

Should roll soon, if what the girl told me is true. She showed me a screenshot, so it should be coming.

Very cool thanks

 

[jimfist]

I only used three for this gig. I don’t use a lot of effects but it was less expensive getting this with of effects available than to buy separate boxes. I had them setup so all I had to do was step on the button of the effect I wanted to use, but somehow I accidentally stepped on the black pedal and changed stuff, and I don’t remember even using the box in the previous song before I was using a effect I had no use for.

Well, all I can suggest is that you spend a little more time getting familiar with operating the pedal so that you can navigate back to where you want to be quickly in the heat of the moment. Using pedals of any kind comes with some sort of footwork. IMO, it's not that hard, but can definitely be unsettling for a new user. Accidents happen. All you can do is be prepared as best you can.

 

[woody357]

Well, all I can suggest is that you spend a little more time getting familiar with operating the pedal so that you can navigate back to where you want to be quickly in the heat of the moment. Using pedals of any kind comes with some sort of footwork. IMO, it's not that hard, but can definitely be unsettling for a new user. Accidents happen. All you can do is be prepared as best you can.

Thank you I will take your advice. What do you think about me putting it on a stand or am and just use my hands.

 

[Loring]

Thank you I will take your advice. What do you think about me putting it on a stand or am and just use my hands.

bad idea

you can set it so that a stomp on the black left and right pedals don't select right away - only scroll. The the whole thing will flash till you select the new patch. Better way to go for a few reasons...

 

[jimfist]

Thank you I will take your advice. What do you think about me putting it on a stand or am and just use my hands.

That wouldn't be how the foot-pedal was designed, but if that works best for you then go for it. I'm assuming you don't need to engage any effects while you're playing your bass, right?

 

[TodaysTomSawyer]

Thank you I will take your advice. What do you think about me putting it on a stand or am and just use my hands.

Actually, back when I was using a B3n I had rolled my ankle repelling. So I placed my pedalboard up on a music stand. I'd got the idea from buddy whose sight was damaged in service and needed things up close to see. Anyway, I switched with my hands between and during songs. Not really any harder or trickier than looking down or away from the instrument to aim with your foot. If you switch between songs or song breaks its a no brainer. Now when recording or instead of reaching down to tweak effects, I still use a music stand for my pedals. YMMV

 

[woody357]

That wouldn't be how the foot-pedal was designed, but if that works best for you then go for it. I'm assuming you don't need to engage any effects while you're playing your bass, right?

The songs I do use it I use it threw out the song so I would hit it in the beginning of the song and at the end.

 

[trekster0721]

Thank you I will take your advice. What do you think about me putting it on a stand or am and just use my hands.

Shoot, that's old school to me -- it's the way I would use my first-generation Line 6 Bass Pod back in the 90's -- they even made a frame that could connect the Pod to a spare mic stand.

 

[Loring]

The songs I do use it I use it threw out the song so I would hit it in the beginning of the song and at the end.

if that's how you're using it.
You could just change it to tuner mode for the songs you don't use

 

[woody357]

if that's how you're using it.
You could just change it to tuner mode for the songs you don't use

At first I did that when learning how to use it, but I realized in stomp mode when I turn off the the patch I back to norm@l.