New: Zoom B3n Multi-Effects

[steve_rolfeca]

Hi

I think I would go with the factory recommended spec - ie 500ma.

It comes with a wall wart and it needs an isolated supply - if you buy a multi supply brick be sure to get a good one with isolated channels. Most of these will have a couple of 500ma output jacks.

This.

Mixing digital pedals with analog ones is always a crapshoot, and you often don't find out you've got a potential problem until you're in a room with iffy AC power.

There are a ton of posts on this thread (and others), with people unsuccessfully trying to troubleshoot come-and-go digital zipper noise, etc.

Save yourself the headache- either use the recommended Zoom wall wart, or at least get a good, brand-name power supply with a.) isolated outputs, and b.) at least Zoom's rated minimum current requirement.

 

[The Rage]

Gig on wednsday and just today I've decided to add the bass phase in a song... Never used phaser before but this one is really sweet.

 

[andreas_flf]

Do you think that the ZNR ''sucks your tone'' or is it transparent?. Would it work at high gain settings?

It works very well and not the least sucking as you call it. Moreover, you can control how sensitive it is, so that even very low volume parts are not cut off. I find the ZNR a real asset.

 

[andreas_flf]

It looks like my B3n's days are now somewhat numbered!

Line 6 HX Effects

... and it looks to have a programmable effects loop!

I have it and it can do wonders, 4-cable method. But I also use a MS-60b in its effects loop for some of my favorite amp sims not available (yet) available on the HX Effects (flip-top).

 

[Loring]

I have it and it can do wonders, 4-cable method. But I also use a MS-60b in its effects loop for some of my favorite amp sims not available (yet) available on the HX Effects (flip-top).

How does the pitch shifter compare?

 

[Johno Dunn]

I have it and it can do wonders, 4-cable method. But I also use a MS-60b in its effects loop for some of my favorite amp sims not available (yet) available on the HX Effects (flip-top).

Trade it in for a Stomp. Tuck and Go (B15) is my go to “amp” in the Stomp. It crushes!

 

[Johno Dunn]

And I’m a former Zoom user. I recommend the B3n to any who can’t swing a stomp!

 

[jimfist]

The HX Stomp checks a lot of boxes for a small format amp/cab/fx modeler. It is on the pricier side of things at $599US. The one thing it is missing that bassists especially like to see (and we've heard the gripes from plenty of people regarding Zoom) is an XLR output. Perhaps Zoom could be forgiven for the omission since they are in the "budget" market. Gotta admit, though, the HX Stomp has a lot of great features for bassists. I may pull the trigger if I can create the $$$.

 

[Johno Dunn]

The HX Stomp checks a lot of boxes for a small format amp/cab/fx modeler. It is on the pricier side of things at $599US. The one thing it is missing that bassists especially like to see (and we've heard the gripes from plenty of people regarding Zoom) is an XLR output. Perhaps Zoom could be forgiven for the omission since they are in the "budget" market. Gotta admit, though, the HX Stomp has a lot of great features for bassists. I may pull the trigger if I can create the $$$.

I have an OmniCabSim Mini on the way to give me a DI solution. I like the cab sims in the HXS, but I found that through my Yamaha DSR112, I liked my tone with the pre amp only versions of the amp sims the best! I want to be able to EQ to each situation on the fly, and this will solve for the lack of a DI as well. Probably should have just gotten the HX Floor!

 

[Solude]

The one thing it is missing that bassists especially like to see (and we've heard the gripes from plenty of people regarding Zoom) is an XLR output.

While there is no balanced XLR connector on the Stomp there is a balanced TRS connector. A TRS to XLR adapter isn't exactly expensive or hard to find.

 

[jimfist]

While there is no balanced XLR connector there is a balanced TRS connector. A TRS to XLR adapter isn't exactly expensive or hard to find.

of course, and lack of built in DI wouldn't bother me. i'm just pointing out that anyone who was displeased with Zoom or Boss for their lack of an XLR output should be equally displeased with Line 6 for the same omission on a pedal that is more than double the cost.

FYI, I've just read that ATOMIC AMPS Amplifire will be including an SVT bass amp model in an upcoming firmware release. I've been begging for this from them for a long time. Though the on-unit programming isn't as slick as other units (it does have a computer editor), the Amplifire line of products DOES have XLR outputs in addition to an FX loop insert (not on the Ampli-fire Box, though). The 6 button version Amplifire looks great at $499US, and the Fire-Box at $299 US is great for limited tasks, though it does have a great feature set via the USB computer editor.

things are getting better for bassists. Still waiting for the Hotone Ampero to come around.

 

[The Rage]

Does anyone know which effect the bass phase is based on?

Merry christmas! ^^

 

[steve_rolfeca]

While there is no balanced XLR connector there is a balanced TRS connector. A TRS to XLR adapter isn't exactly expensive or hard to find.

Are you referring to the left (headphone) output on the B3n?

Because that isn’t balanced. It’s just the right and left headphone outputs on the top and ring. Sticking a TRS to XLR adapter cable in that jack is not the same as having a real DI box or dedicated DI output.

 

[Solude]

I was referring to the Stomp TRS outputs. I've updated the post to be more clear.

 

[Aidil]

I was referring to the Stomp TRS outputs. I've updated the post to be more clear.

there's only one stomp TRS output, which IS the Left / Headphones output, just as @steve_rolfeca referring to. It's outputting stereo signal, not balanced signal.

 

[Solude]

I believe you are referring to the B3n not Stomp. The Stomp has a headphone jack on the side and balanced trs main outs on the rear.

 

[Aidil]

I believe you are referring to the B3n not Stomp. The Stomp has a headphone jack on the side and balanced trs main outs on the rear.

Had you written HX Stomp instead, it would have been clear from the start.

 

[-Asdfgh-]

While there is no balanced XLR connector on the Stomp there is a balanced TRS connector. A TRS to XLR adapter isn't exactly expensive or hard to find.

If you just want something to take a fairly beefy signal and balance it there are plenty of cheap DI boxes that will do the job too IMHO. It's when you want a high input impedance to cope with a relatively low passive bass signal and add in some extra sauce (warming up the signal) it might be worth spending a chunk on a DI, but I've never noticed any particular degradation running a low impedance signal through a DI compared to the direct value over short cable runs, e.g. a synth 6 feet direct to a mixer versus 3 feet to a DI, then three feet balanced to the same mixer.

 

[-Asdfgh-]

The HX Stomp checks a lot of boxes for a small format amp/cab/fx modeler. It is on the pricier side of things at $599US. The one thing it is missing that bassists especially like to see (and we've heard the gripes from plenty of people regarding Zoom) is an XLR output. Perhaps Zoom could be forgiven for the omission since they are in the "budget" market. Gotta admit, though, the HX Stomp has a lot of great features for bassists. I may pull the trigger if I can create the $$$.

In some ways no xlr could be an advantage as the sound man/woman can satisfy their emotional need to use their DI.

 

[Daniel Piper]

Looks like a lot of key people have headed over to Helix-land (don’t blame them- might make the shift myself soon)

But I’m still loving the b3n for its effects!

This is my practise setup for a New Years festival I’m playing