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New: Zoom B3n Multi-Effects

So, how do you all keep consistent volume between patches? Do you adjust the patch volume? Or adjust individual effects and keep patch volume at 100 on all patches?

I thought of feeding pink noise (it should give you the full frequency spectrum but at a consistent level) into the B3n and then adjusting the volume with a VU meter or a DAW. Or maybe your ears will do
 
If I'm using my B3n into a combo amp, should I bother with cab modelling?

In theory no. In practice do what you want. :D
When I use real amp and cab I disable the cab sim (and also the amp sim unless I'm into the FX return), but there are exepctions. Like the factory preset "Peachy", which use the 1x18 cab sim, and to me it just sound good as it is even straight into an amp...
 
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If I'm using my B3n into a combo amp, should I bother with cab modelling?

Sorry if I'm asking questions that have already come up earlier in the thread.

A real bass cabinet or combo speaker will be voiced in a particular way by the manufacturer to compliment, usually, a particular preamp/power amp. Of course, in the real world, people are mixing and matching this stuff all the time, and sometimes it works fine, other times not.

Thus, as @TheRage mentioned, ideally you don't want to run a cabinet simulation into a final destination that is a bass speaker cabinet UNLESS that cabinet is designed to cover the Full Range of the usable audio spectrum for bass.

That said, I ran my B3n with Ampeg SVT amp model and 8x10 cab sim into a bass rig (SWR Studio 220 head and Workingman's 4x10) and it sounded pretty good. It was a quickie, informal rehearsal, but it still sounded decent.

In the end, try it both ways and use your ears. What is your bass combo amp?
 
In the end, try it both ways and use your ears. What is your bass combo amp?

It's an Ashdown EVO AAA 120w with a 15" speaker. Thanks, I did just that.. played around with a few new patches. I've discovered I prefer the sound of the preamp models (especially the Sansamp one) over the amp sims when I'm running into the front of my amp. I actually really like the sound of my amp on it's own and so far, have also been only using stompbox models on the B3N at gigs. I've finally got some time to sit down and properly set up some patches.
 
Seeing you are on this thread.. and seem to have experience of the Helix... in terms of amp and cab sims - is there much difference in quality between the two? In the way the amp models on the B3n are noticeably better than the B3 - is there similar differences between B3n and Helix?
Can I chime in? I played through an MS60b into a Zoom B3n for a number of years and absolutely loved my tone! Then I played through a Helix Stomp. Game changed. I have since moved up to a Helix LT. The depth of tones you get from the Helix platform is unbelievable! Is it worth the extra cash? Not sure on that one, but it was enough of a difference that I took the plunge.
 
That's really the issue when comparing the low budget stuff - what do I want, what do I need, what do I want to spend?
Zoom fits well with one segment of the market at a low price, Line 6 (and others) fit well across the next levels up from there (mid, high). The entry cost for Zoom is about $200, the entry cost for HX Stomp is $599. The rest is up to your ears and pocket book.
 
I know this has been asked before, but couldn't find the old answers: how does the pedal behaves along analog pedals? Any weird noise? I want to use a TC Electronic Spark Booster before the B3n. I like most of the sounds in the Zoom, except for low gain/mild distortion (it works great in medium to high gain)
 
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I know this has been asked before, but couldn't find the old answers: how does the pedal behaves along analog pedals? Any weird noise? I want to use a TC Electronic Spark Booster before the B3n. I like most of the sounds in the Zoom, except for low gain/mild distortion (it works great in medium to high gain)
If you use a separate or isolated power supply you should be ok. Daisy chaining the B3n with anything results in noise.
 
The cabinet I have takes only 1/4", which is why I posted that particular cable .Thanks for the feedback though. :)

I know this has been asked before, but couldn't find the old answers: how does the pedal behaves along analog pedals? Any weird noise? I want to use a TC Electronic Spark Booster before the B3n. I like most of the sounds in the Zoom, except for low gain/mild distortion (it works great in medium to high gain)
Yeah I found that out the hard way...whhhhhiiiiiineeeee :confused:when using my Black Cat Bass Octave Fuzz. Using batteries in the Fuzz and it's completely quiet hooked up to the B3n.
Best wishes,
Brent
 
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I like most of the sounds in the Zoom, except for low gain/mild distortion (it works great in medium to high gain)

Are you using the B3n for amp modeling? If not, try using one of the amp models that can overdrive when pushed. Off the top of my head I'm sure the SVT and the Acoustic amp models will overdrive nicely for a mild distortion.
 
Are you using the B3n for amp modeling? If not, try using one of the amp models that can overdrive when pushed. Off the top of my head I'm sure the SVT and the Acoustic amp models will overdrive nicely for a mild distortion.
Will try, I've noticed the Acoustic can be pushed, but didn't pay a lot of attention to the SVT. As soon as I grab some fresh strings I will give it a spin. Thanks!
 
I have the same question about the pitch shifter bug. I use it in a couple of patches (1 is a half step drop, the other a whole step drop) and haven't had any issue with it.

on the pitch or octaves i get a glitchy sound here and there. but here again I just got my b3n and never have done any updates.


I was also hoping for a B3nX realease. seems like ill have to buy that expression pedal too