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New: Zoom B3n Multi-Effects

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steve_rolfeca said:
Maybe it’s just me, but I find pitch shift effects to be Zoom’s weakest area. On guitar, as well as bass.

None of them really float my boat...
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In certain context I've been able to get along fine with the pitch shifter/whammy. What seems to be necessary is to use a post-effect to seriously roll off the top end and add distortion in various amounts. Some of the drives work great for this. Frequency limiting the pitch shifter helps immensely, though I'll admit it's not the greatest pitch shifter out there. I've gotten a very usable "Killing in the Name Of" guitar solo pitch shift out of it FWIW.
 
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True. But if the effects are the same quality of the "N" series it could be a better choice to fit on an existing pedalboard (like I'0m trying to do, but won't let go the Bassphase ^^).

Assuming I'm right thinking this B1 is much smaller than the B3n...
 
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The Rage said:
True. But if the effects are the same quality of the "N" series it could be a better choice to fit on an existing pedalboard (like I'0m trying to do, but won't let go the Bassphase ^^).

Assuming I'm right thinking this B1 is much smaller than the B3n...
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from a TGP post...pretty cool pedal size comparison chart. You'll see a G1 FOUR and a G3n, G1on and the tiny GCE-3 toward the middle-right side of the graphic.

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Oly Spart said:
Looking at the b1(X) the first thing I notice is that there are not so much switches as on the b3n.
So it may not be a replacement for it.
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This will be a replacement for the B1on not the B3n. It does look like they are consolidating the Amp sims and eff3cts for the B3n and the new B1 Four. This would be good because I think Zoom might provide more goodies for us.
 
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steve_rolfeca said:
I’m really interested in the GCE-3:



Being able to access the guitar and bass effects from one device via the editor software, is something I’ve long been hoping for...
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Yes, the GCE-3 seems very interesting. Both guitar and bass effect together, and extremely small , which can be good or bad, as I wonder how you can use the footswiches on the scene. We need to know exactly it's power and price.
 
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steve_rolfeca said:
I’m really interested in the GCE-3:
Being able to access the guitar and bass effects from one device via the editor software, is something I’ve long been hoping for...
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I believe you're tethered to a computer to get sounds from the GCE-3. Yes, it has access to both guitar and bass versions for patch creation, which is cool. I'm guessing that you still need the hardware version of the pedal in order for you to use those patches on your pedal.

I'm still looking for the hardware pedal that goes cross-platform, G3n-->B3n.
 
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I've been playing through this and the GT-1B again recently and find that as stock, better sounds are attainable through the Zoom, and of course you have more chain flexibility, however, when you mess about with different cabs on the GT, at least with a few of the amp Sims, you get a heck of a better overall sound. Of course, this down to my personal taste, however, imo there are a few rubbishy sounding models in the GT while the Zoom equivalent can be set to sound better.
Overall the Zoom sounds better into a clean amp though (with speaker blend set down or speaker SIM off) while I get better sounds on FRFR with the Boss - my favourite sounds are guitar-like cleans, or high gain mixed with phaser or flanger, which may not be what everyone else goes for.

Regardless, both are still killing it even after all this time - I'd love to see a bass-dedicated professional modeller for bass though, like a GT-1000b.
 
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FuzzFacetious said:
Regardless, both are still killing it even after all this time - I'd love to see a bass-dedicated professional modeller for bass though, like a GT-1000b.
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Been long overdue. IMO, it's a good thing that these low cost boxes are sounding pretty damn good for general purpose use and gigging. Until I really have the need to pay for all of the additional features, I've got no good reason (other than to feed my head and GAS) to spend upwards of $300 to get a pedal that satisfies.

I am looking into the new Atomic Bass Box preamp/comp/cab sim pedal, though. And I'll be curious to see how the low cost pedals stack up, since Atomic really does deliver stellar amp modeling at the mid-range price point.
 
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jimfist said:
Been long overdue. IMO, it's a good thing that these low cost boxes are sounding pretty damn good for general purpose use and gigging. Until I really have the need to pay for all of the additional features, I've got no good reason (other than to feed my head and GAS) to spend upwards of $300 to get a pedal that satisfies.

I am looking into the new Atomic Bass Box preamp/comp/cab sim pedal, though. And I'll be curious to see how the low cost pedals stack up, since Atomic really does deliver stellar amp modeling at the mid-range price point.
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The quality of that is no doubt amazing, but that form factor is useless to me really.
I'm glad it exists for people that will make use of it though, hopefully it inspires more bass gear with more footswitches!
 
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jimfist said:
The different compressors have different things about them that impact the way they sound. Any specific compressor you'd like to start with?
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I tend to gravitate to the EBS model. Just a few quick pointers or a starting place would be good.

That and tips for achieving unity gain would be good - I end up with everything turned down so low in amp models, patch volume and master volume it gets close to the noise floor - so I must be doing something wrong.
If I set up a blank patch to compare it too - what should the patch volumes be?
 
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Luke the Fluke said:
Can someone point me towards something that tells me the best way to set up the compression on my B3n?
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Start with the work that Zoom has already done for you: The Patches.
Check out the preloaded patches and see what compressors are there. Using the GuitarLab software, pick a preloaded patch that has a Compressor in it, click the "Clip" button, then double click the Compressor pedal icon to the right. That puts it in your clipboard. Do that for a few so you can choose. Scroll to the patch you are creating, then drag a Compressor from the clipboard into the patch pedal screen. Adjust the compressor settings there. Remove and Repeat until you find one you really like that works best with what patch you are creating.
Have fun!
 
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Luke the Fluke said:
I tend to gravitate to the EBS model. Just a few quick pointers or a starting place would be good.

That and tips for achieving unity gain would be good - I end up with everything turned down so low in amp models, patch volume and master volume it gets close to the noise floor - so I must be doing something wrong.
If I set up a blank patch to compare it too - what should the patch volumes be?
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Which compressor in the B3n would you like to start with? Or are you not partial to any of them?
 

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