New: Zoom B3n Multi-Effects

[SirMjac28]

I'm officially in love!! the only thing I can't figure out is how to download new patches that users have created? I know with the B3's software you could download and share patches. I'm convinced that the B3n is a nice upgrade from the B3 but to be fair I might not have upgraded if my B3 hadn't given up the ghost a few months ago.

 

[SirMjac28]

I have a B3 for parts if anyone wants it I also have the original box. I'm in Ohio and I'll pay for shipping if you're in this part of the country or I can pay the first $10.00 if you're further out. Zoom charges $100.00 to replace a broken unit.

 

[VonSledgehammer]

the only thing I can't figure out is how to download new patches that users have created?

I created a site a few days ago to do this - haven't publicized it much, so as a result the only patches on it are ones that I uploaded

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[SirMjac28]

I created a site a few days ago to do this - haven't publicized it much, so as a result the only patches on it are ones that I uploaded

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Very cool thanks

 

[jimfist]

I'm officially in love!! the only thing I can't figure out is how to download new patches that users have created? I know with the B3's software you could download and share patches. I'm convinced that the B3n is a nice upgrade from the B3 but to be fair I might not have upgraded if my B3 hadn't given up the ghost a few months ago.

ZOOM has created a PDF that accompanies the FEB 2017 patches that they created for the B3n, which explains the whole process of downloading and installing new patches.

If Zoom or anyone else has created patches for the B3n and saved them in a PC file format with the .zptc extension, what you do is select all of the files you want to have ACCESS to loading on your B3n from the file folder containing those patches, and then drag-and-drop those .zptc files onto the right side of the screen in GuitarLab in the blue area under the heading of Patch Pool, with the PATCH icon highlighted in GuitarLab. Patch Pool doesn't show up if you have EFFECT highlighted.

When you drag-n-drop from the PC folder to GuitarLab, there will be a new folder created in GuitarLab's Patch Pool area, which you can rename by right clicking. If you click on this newly formed folder, it will drop down list all of the new patches that were dragged there. Then, you can individually drag them from the Patch Pool folder onto the right side of an Empty patch (locations in the higher patch numbers above 80 or so), and you're done. Repeat for however many patches you want to add.

 

[SirMjac28]

ZOOM has created a PDF that accompanies the FEB 2017 patches that they created for the B3n, which explains the whole process of downloading and installing new patches.

If Zoom or anyone else has created patches for the B3n and saved them in a PC file format with the .zptc extension, what you do is select all of the files you want to have ACCESS to loading on your B3n from the file folder containing those patches, and then drag-and-drop those .zptc files onto the right side of the screen in GuitarLab in the blue area under the heading of Patch Pool, with the PATCH icon highlighted in GuitarLab. Patch Pool doesn't show up if you have EFFECT highlighted.

When you drag-n-drop from the PC folder to GuitarLab, there will be a new folder created in GuitarLab's Patch Pool area, which you can rename by right clicking. If you click on this newly formed folder, it will drop down list all of the new patches that were dragged there. Then, you can individually drag them from the Patch Pool folder onto the right side of an Empty patch (locations in the higher patch numbers above 80 or so), and you're done. Repeat for however many patches you want to add.

Thanks that answered everything.

 

[jimfist]

I created a site a few days ago to do this - haven't publicized it much, so as a result the only patches on it are ones that I uploaded

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Can you help me with this? Where do the patches saved in GuitarLab's Patch Pool reside on the computer? I've been searching for them all over my machine and have no idea where they go. I must be missing something terribly obvious.

 

[VonSledgehammer]

Can you help me with this? Where do the patches saved in GuitarLab's Patch Pool reside on the computer? I've been searching for them all over my machine and have no idea where they go. I must be missing something terribly obvious.

On Windows you'll find the ones you have saved to the Pool in:

%LOCALAPPDATA%\ZOOM Guitar Lab\FromPC\PatchPool

Not sure about Mac, haven't tried yet!

 

[jimfist]

On Windows you'll find the ones you have saved to the Pool in:

%LOCALAPPDATA%\ZOOM Guitar Lab\FromPC\PatchPool

Not sure about Mac, haven't tried yet!

Thanks a million!

 

[SirMjac28]

I created a site a few days ago to do this - haven't publicized it much, so as a result the only patches on it are ones that I uploaded

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This site is really done well congrats I plan on contributing for sure.

 

[-Asdfgh-]

I'm not a trained audio engineer but can I play? I think the square wave is a particularly good test for a2d/d2a systems because to reproduce it faithfully you need an extraordinarily high frequency response. I wonder if it's safe to say that a system that's spec'd for (say) 30Hz to 20KHz simply cannot (by the laws of physics) do better than what you see in the output above.

What I'm wondering now is the difference between a bypassed B3n, a well-respected buffer, and a plain wire running the same tests.

Thanks for doing this. It was a busy week and I didn't get chance with the B2, 9, and 1on.

In terms of frequency response, the oscilloscope probably has better frequency response than the human ear. Can you low pass at 20kHz and compare?

 

[andreas_flf]

ZOOM has created a PDF that accompanies the FEB 2017 patches that they created for the B3n, which explains the whole process of downloading and installing new patches.

... snip ...

When you drag-n-drop from the PC folder to GuitarLab, there will be a new folder created in GuitarLab's Patch Pool area, which you can rename by right clicking. If you click on this newly formed folder, it will drop down list all of the new patches that were dragged there. Then, you can individually drag them from the Patch Pool folder onto the right side of an Empty patch (locations in the higher patch numbers above 80 or so), and you're done. Repeat for however many patches you want to add.

This works the same way on the Mac. The only difference beeing that you are likely to have any downloaded patch in your Downloads folder.

 

[andreas_flf]

Thanks a million!

On the Mac you find all files at '~/Library/Application Support/ZOOM Guitar Lab' where the tilde stands of course for your home directory. Use the option key to make the Library folder to appear in the 'Go' menu while navigating in the 'Go' menu. Backups are stored within that folder, e.g. in the subfolder Temp/Local/Backup_B3n_20170522_22_02

 

[Silas Stingy]

I decided to leave the main rig at home last night and attempt to play straight to the FOH with just the B3N and a DI, so I spent most of yesterday setting what I thought might be a decent tone. Interestingly I found large para eq boost in the mids before the SVT sim + cab gives great results and makes the SVT tone much more usable in a live situation. This tone sat in the mix so well I'm now seriously considering leaving the rig at home more often.

 

[jimfist]

On the Mac you find all files at '~/Library/Application Support/ZOOM Guitar Lab' where the tilde stands of course for your home directory. Use the option key to make the Library folder to appear in the 'Go' menu while navigating in the 'Go' menu. Backups are stored within that folder, e.g. in the subfolder Temp/Local/Backup_B3n_20170522_22_02

I had totally forgotten to change the view settings on my Windows 10 machine, which is why I had such a hard time locating the App Data folder. Once you tick the box to show "hidden" files and folders, there it was. Just a note to Windows users, that if you don't see this folder, this setting the reason.

The file path:

C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Local\ZOOM Guitar Lab\FromPC\PatchPool

 

[ticol07]

Frequency plots for the B3 cabinet sims can be found here Zoom B3 | Cabinets

All credits to @ticol07

Cheers!

This is great that you saved everything and published it on your website.
I still haven't bought the b3n. I hope I'll get one soon. It looks like a great unit from what I read on your this thread.
Money is a bit short and my band is gone for a loooong break (not to say definitive break )... So it's not sure I buy it in the next days

Thank you so much for linking to this archive!
I've been looking for these graphs for a while, and was quite upset that talkbass decided to delete them from the original thread for no apparent reason!

A set of new B3n spectrum graphs like these will be very useful (at least for me!).

If someone wants to send me a b3n I'll be happy to record new graphs

 

[CharlieC]

This is great that you saved everything and published it on your website.
I still haven't bought the b3n. I hope I'll get one soon. It looks like a great unit from what I read on your this thread.
Money is a bit short and my band is gone for a loooong break (not to say definitive break )... So it's not sure I buy it in the next days

If someone wants to send me a b3n I'll be happy to record new graphs

@ticol07, should you be kind enough to send me one of these from France I will ensure that you receive your B3n from Thomann.de via overnight delivery.

Truth be told, this particular vintage is valued at $5K USD, so I will also include a fresh pack of bass strings as well.

Good to see you on this new thread, old friend!

Cheers!

 

[OldFunBass]

Ok, ordered a Zoom B3N the other day, just got the chance to plug it in and try it today. This is my first multi-effect, and really not that experienced with effects in general. So I may have a totally stupid question, but how do you bypass the unit? I was sort of expecting a bypass switch on it so I could get the true bass into the amp sound if I wanted, but after reading the operation manual and spending a couple of hours with it I don't see how to do this. All other pedals have a bypass switch (either buffered or not) but could not find on this. The closest thing I could do was put it to an "empty" effect setting, but that still changed the bass signal (at least volume). I was really hoping to be able to use this for effects when I wanted and to be able to switch it off when I wanted a pure straight bass signal.

 

[Stu_Bass]

Ok, ordered a Zoom B3N the other day, just got the chance to plug it in and try it today. This is my first multi-effect, and really not that experienced with effects in general. So I may have a totally stupid question, but how do you bypass the unit? I was sort of expecting a bypass switch on it so I could get the true bass into the amp sound if I wanted, but after reading the operation manual and spending a couple of hours with it I don't see how to do this. All other pedals have a bypass switch (either buffered or not) but could not find on this. The closest thing I could do was put it to an "empty" effect setting, but that still changed the bass signal (at least volume). I was really hoping to be able to use this for effects when I wanted and to be able to switch it off when I wanted a pure straight bass signal.

Create an empty patch that is truly empty of effects (the stock ones are not) and balance the level with the patch volume or use the tuner in bypass mode (not mute mode)

 

[OldFunBass]

Create an empty patch that is truly empty of effects (the stock ones are not) and balance the level with the patch volume or use the tuner in bypass mode (not mute mode)

Thanks, I will do that. I guess I can clear out an empty patch and just call it bypass. Need to figure that out, but seems like it is doable. Thanks for the help.