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NFL 2023-2024

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Because, of course, you're just as up in arms about the pass interference called on the arm brush, or MVS having forward progress stopped going backwards and stepping out and the clock stopping, and definitely mad about the personal foul called for tackling the runner inbounds who was not giving himself up... and not just the the missed PI call that would have benefitted the Chiefs...
I'm not a Chiefs fan, and I didn't watch the game. So I'm not mad at all. I was made aware of this by two friends who did watch it and are neutral when it comes to the Chiefs. But if you're gonna do whataboutism, were there really no other close calls that didn't go the Chiefs' way? And did any of the calls you mention have the same impact of a 40+-yard penalty that would have placed KC inside the Pack's 10-yard line with under a minute left? I think my point stands.
 
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I may regret this, but with Jake Browning at QB, I am a Bengal fan. He was so great at UW, it feels good to see him go 32/37 for 354 yards tonight with a rushing TD as well while helping lead his team to a win. I'm jealous that Jake Browning as a backup is better than Kenny Pickett ever will be.
It's exciting to watch a coach and a team with a plan that plays aggressively from whistle to whistle. I'm jealous for that as well. The clock management, wow. The idea to call timeouts while on defense to save the clock to try and score, what a novel idea. :D

-Mike
I have always had a bad taste over the Bengals, who I think of as fake Browns. But I'm right with you about rooting for them so long as Browning is their QB. I'm happy to see that he's in the NFL and even happier to see that he's actually pretty good. Maybe he will get a shot at being a starter somewhere if he fills in well with the Bengals.
 
I can ususally find an upside in every game, but today there is nothing. At least once a season, the Steelers have a bottom feeder opponent, so they take the week off and come in totally unprepared and unmotivated and lose, so this was not completely unexpected. Usually these games are on the road, so being this bad against a team like this at home is a new low.

Then there were the endless stupid penalties that killed an already struggling offense or kept the defense on the field far too long. Then there was our center who forgets how to snap the ball. Then there's DJ celebrating his TD when we have already lost the game. Then what really made my head hurt was when TJ Watt gets dinged up and Tomlin sends him back out with the game long decided. Yeah, let's risk a worse injury to our most valuable asset for no possible gain.

After all these years Tomlin still can't have this team ready to play every Sunday and has no clue how to manage a game. No one can blame this one on Matt Canada.
Well as much as it pains me to say this, they should roll New England. From the little I have seen the Pats are a dumpster fire. Reminds me of the Rod Rust years….
 
Well as much as it pains me to say this, they should roll New England. From the little I have seen the Pats are a dumpster fire. Reminds me of the Rod Rust years….
This Bears fan is standing steady in his support for the Steelers to do the right thing and get the Pats back on track. I mean if they can lose to the Cards surely they can lose to the Pats, too? (and, no, I won't stop calling you Shirley) :)
 
I'm concerned about the Jags trajectory at this point in the season. They lost last night, and absolutely deserved to do so. They won last week, but by inches ...
AFC South is still pretty tight. So is my NFC South. You guys are miles better than the Colts so I think your threat is that the Texans keep winning. I think the Jags are better but that’s a close race right now.
 
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This Bears fan is standing steady in his support for the Steelers to do the right thing and get the Pats back on track. I mean if they can lose to the Cards surely they can lose to the Pats, too? (and, no, I won't stop calling you Shirley) :)

There are more than few Steelers fans hoping for a loss to the miserable Pats. Back-to-back embarrassments might be the the last straw that results in Tomlin's "retirement".
 
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I'm not a Chiefs fan, and I didn't watch the game. So I'm not mad at all. I was made aware of this by two friends who did watch it and are neutral when it comes to the Chiefs. But if you're gonna do whataboutism, were there really no other close calls that didn't go the Chiefs' way? And did any of the calls you mention have the same impact of a 40+-yard penalty that would have placed KC inside the Pack's 10-yard line with under a minute left? I think my point stands.

I'm just saying there's 3 bad calls that benefitted the Chiefs and one non-call that went against the Chiefs in that last minute. But everyone's bitching about the PI non-call.

There's the 15 yard unnecessary roughness call at 57 seconds, the lack of a 10 second runoff at 50 seconds after the review of the Rice reception and the clock stopping at 19 seconds when MVS went backwards out of bounds.

Plus the Packers had a ticky-tack PI call on them earlier that everyone seems to have forgotten about- but they got away with this one
 
Well as much as it pains me to say this, they should roll New England. From the little I have seen the Pats are a dumpster fire. Reminds me of the Rod Rust years….

Zero chance a Mike Tomlin team beats a Bill Belichick team. Tomlin has shown time and again he can't match wits with Belichick.
The Patriots may be a dumpster fire, but the Steelers are what Bill will use to keep the fires stoked this Thursday.

-Mike
 
I can't believe my Jags lost to the Bengals ...

That sure was unexpected. What we witnessed was excellent preparation and coaching from Zac Taylor and his staff.
Even with Lawrence going down, Jacksonville had a chance in the final seconds, which is also a testament to Doug Pederson and his coaching staff.

-Mike
 
The 9ers took a quarter to get going, but the last three quarters of that game with Philly were a thing of beauty. It went well beyond a drubbing and into the realm of a straight up arse-handing. Wow. I had forgotten how potent Deebo and C-Mac can be when on the field together.

Yes, I was at the game, and as soon as the Eagles settled for field goals on the first two possessions, I knew we were in trouble. I wasn't surprised, because I had watched the Niners-Seahawks game on Thanksgiving night, and had seen how dominant the Niners could be. The Eagles, despite their record, have not played well enough to beat that version of the Niners, and that's the version that arrived in Philly.

It's mostly about our defense. The offense should be fine, and if we beat Dallas this week, there will be happiness in Philadelphia.
 
The genius of GM and coach, Aaron Charles Rodgers
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Ex-Jags employee accused of stealing over $22M.
You know you're loaded when someone can skim 22 million bucks from you over four years and you don't notice.

-Mike
Hmmm, I better go check my cigar box . . .
Seriously, though, the article reports the employee in question was in their financial department so that would have made it easier for them to hide/obscure the theft. It's not like there's a pile of cash and gold in a vault somewhere that someone is going to notice missing, it's all just numbers in ledgers and if the people providing you the ledgers are the ones committing the theft you don't know it's been stolen. It *does* underscore the need for the use of separation of duties, internally, and regular outside audits. The former are better practices though not consistently implemented while the latter are required of publicly traded companies (and also a better practice even for private ones). Since NFL teams are private companies (with the exception of Green Bay, I guess) they might skimp on those audits for whatever reason.

I've held various positions in IT for the same Fortune 500 financial svcs firm for over 40 years now and have seen all kinds of things - including a staffer that embezzled 6 figures to feed a gambling habit they developed once casinos opened up in the region. They were found out after a new system replaced the old one they'd learned how to manipulate (like within 2 months of the system going in).

22 million in only 4 years for a relatively small business like an NFL team does seem like a lot, though. Says to me some lousy (mis)management across the board (or collusion).
 
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