Yup, there is some hiss or wind that the high knob does change. I have the mono headphone version. Experimenting has shown that it does amplify noise present in the signal chain (nature of an EQ), so eliminating any extra makes it pretty darn quiet. It's there, but not enough that I care when recording.
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NPD DSM Noisemaker OmniCabSim
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Finally got mine, and I cannot be happier. Paired with the Subway preamp pedal it provides quite a few easily dialed in tones.
Regrading the hissing/high frequency noise, are people experiencing it with short signal chains and a clean bass? Mine is practically silent but the above is the entirety of my current signal chain.
Regrading the hissing/high frequency noise, are people experiencing it with short signal chains and a clean bass? Mine is practically silent but the above is the entirety of my current signal chain.
When I had my OCSDv1 it was only noticeable/present with distortion. I'm assuming it's because there's a bump in the highs before the cutoff rather than merely a cutoff
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It should be silent. 99% of the time, the noise comes from the source, and the inherent peaks and valleys of the cabsim process will change the color of that background noise, making it more apparent ( or less apparent, depending on the type of noise). As any active device, it has its own noise, but it's very low. Tweaking the input level and cabsim gain for the best sound/noise ratio is the way to go.
Yeah, that makes perfect sense. And he did adjust the frequency range of the most recent batch higher up for better usability. I don't currently have a distortion/fuzz to check it with, but I imagine I'd run into a similar phenomenon just from the nature of each component amplifying the ones before it, et cetera. I mostly asked because I'd hate it for someone to purchase the pedal and end up feeling/thinking that it's defective (as long as it isn't, of course), commenters didn't specify whether they've reduced their signal chains to the minimum or not, so I naturally asked if only to possibly help them locate the actual source of the noise. Assuming that the pedal is indeed working as intended.
Aye, nothing is ever 100% silent. TBH, I partially bumped the thread just to express my enjoyment of the pedal. My DI'd recordings took a massive leap in quality when I got the MESA Subway, and they've now made yet another similar leap when paired with your OCS. When a product is legit, you just hear it straight away. While there are more and more IR cab sims out there now, I think that there will always be a place for an analog cab sim for those of us who prefer that approach.
This is likely too inquisitive, but was there communication between you and Doug regarding the IR in the new AO Ultra? While pleasantly surprised that it has a cab sim feature, I wasn't too surprised they opted to go with the digital option rather than the analog one.
I also want to be clear - I loved the OCSD when I had mine. Ticked off multiple needs, sounded great and was one of the MOST powerful tone shaping tools I'd ever had. Highly recommended. Also, I fully believe that I'm the guilty party here because I run a relatively long chain with different dirts on in both parallel and in series, along with boosting upper mids multiple times throughout the chain.
I have to weigh in as well... i recently bought a new 5-string (my first) and was needing a L/HPF. I bought the OmniCabSim and have not looked back. This piece of kit totally delivers the goods and as some one who uses a lot of dirt... I consider this an essential piece of kit.
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Doug let me know about adding IR on their new pedals..we have a very good relation and he gave me the heads up about it so i wouldn't be so shocked, as we have a very non- aggressive, fair competition. It's hard to know if adding cabsim to their pedals will threaten the omnicabsim..i tend to think some users will not consider a dedicated cabsim since it will be integrated..but at the same time, the omnicabsim is so comfortable to use and flexible that it's on its own league. Who knows..im I just a bit scared about it. But as an entrepreneur, I'm always scared anyway..
I don't wanna be too dramatic, but I was all in on the Alpha Omega Ultra *until* I saw all the digital stuff. That's not a direction I want to move. As cool as IR capability is, I think the OCSD gets a huge leg up from being all analog and adjustable on the fly. I think the DG stuff adding IR functionality will provide the OCSD with some competition, but I think the value-add of the OCSD is it's ability to be quickly adjusted. As many here say, the OCSD is the best tone shaping tool I've got, and I'm sure as heck not going to stop recommending it.
The biggest weakness I see with the DG AO Ultra is that if you want to use the IR, you probably want it at the end of the chain. If you use multiple pedals, you may not want your dirt at that point in the chain.
I’m also a big fan of being able to turn knobs in real time.
How about a DSM Noisemaker preamp with OCSD, drive and EQ section all in one?
IR DSP is interesting, and I have the upcoming B7KUv2 on my wish list (mostly for reasons other than IR), but the above makes perfect sense to me. When I use the OCS, I can put it last and have no worries about messing up the order of my pedals. All I use is dirt, but I'm fussy about stacking order!
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Yup.. it's a possible new product. The drive maker together with the omnicabsim is as powerful, or even more, than an axe fx. But i would have to prioritize the controls..pedals with 12 or more knobs are expensive to make, and attractive to just a few people..
Maybe you can suggest the minimum controls and features it should have..
That can be fun...
Signal should be: Preamp/Buffer > Effects Loop > Distortion > Cab Sim
Make the Distortion pre/post Loop switchable (switch, no knob).
Preamp Knobs (3):
High EQ, Low EQ, Gain/Level (do a Bax style EQ for minimum knob count, but add Mids and even concentric stacked knob with a parametric adjustment). For minimal knobs, offer switches with dedicated boost/cut levels (+/- 6 dB?)
Loop Knobs (1?):
Maybe a Return level control
We are up to 4 knobs, so now you've gotta allocate them to the Distortion and OCSD
OCSD has 6 & Drive Maker has 6 (ignoring the boost), so that would total 16 knobs, all combined.
Ditch the Gate -1 = 15
Only need one master/level, not two so... -1 = 14
Convert Voice to a 3-position toggle? -1 = 13
Maybe hybridize to EQ of the Pre/buffer to really control the EQ of the Drive?
... Just a rough idea, off the top.
edit - Phase switch.
Dsmnoisemaker
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Dsmnoisemaker
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I would appreciate if someone makes an NPD thread for it..i think i can't due to commercial user limitations.
