That would be the NS basscello, and it costs $2000 more. I don't know that there's sufficient interest in the basscello to make Ned do a cheaper version.
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Double Bass NS Design WAV4 megathread part I
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Frank - I would laugh from joy, and then rush out to get one as a backup to my (34" scale) NS Bass Cello
Ed (daHammer)
Whilst browsing YouTube I came across this
Nearly as good as me on a bad day
I'm sorry guys, but am I the only one who watched this and thought it sounded absolutely terrible? Playing a million different cacophonous notes does not equal music in my ears. It honestly sounds more like a hand position exercise than anything else.
bajocallao
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I am ordering a wav bass but I want to put superflex on it
after the metal plate in the back there is about 2 inches of the bass' wooden body before you put through holles on the bottom
Does anybody think the strings will dig into the body ?
after the metal plate in the back there is about 2 inches of the bass' wooden body before you put through holles on the bottom
Does anybody think the strings will dig into the body ?
It looks like they would, although it will be on the back of the instrument, and so would not be visible to audience members, although certainly to the player. If I string the bass in this way, I will almost certainly attempt to contrive a device to protect the body of the bass. I imagine a metal plate with some padding between it and the bass would do the trick.
Jennifer
Well, I did put a link to some useful information in this post, but it's been removed.
Andy
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Not terrible and technique was great. But there's more to be said in what you DON'T play than what you do play. It takes a long, long time to realize that you don't have to play everything you can in one solo.
I was getting back up to speed with this thread today, and took another look at my WAV having read Jennifer's comments as I was thinking about a 3/4 restring.
That's a good point that a wraparound 3/4 DB string set would indeed have to contact the wood at its 90deg turn, where it exits the rear of the body. I'm unsure sure whether the wood is hard enough to avoid lowered spring tension - and tuning intervals?
It would be a big help to learn how CR and EU models deal with routing of 3/4 stringing in this area. Though not identical, the geometry and relative constraints do look similar. Any comments appreciated.
I was giving what I thought was useful information, which happened to come from an ebay advert. The advert had nothing to do with me.
Okay, lets try the quote this time, without the supporting link to the ebay advert it came from, since that seems to be against the rules.
I've seen this bass on ebay, and it would appear that some damage has been done to the bottom of the bass. However, the owner has strung the bass wrongly; he has wrapped the strings around the outside of the body when it seems to me that they should go through the holes the strings supplied with the bass go through. Why he did it this way I have no idea.
Jennifer
Jennifer
Hmm, I see what you mean. I have ordered a set of Thomastic Superflexibles from SAITENKATALOG.DE so I'll let you know how it goes.
My stand (replacement after the first one broke) lost its split pins too, so like you I've put a bolt through. It's worth noting to anyone who does this the stand top is a cast metal so don't over tighten the new bolt, you could break the casting. I think it might be worth the extra investment in a CR4 stand. A word of warning to UK owners though, don't try to buy a CR4 stand from The Bass Centre in London, because I didn't buy the WAV4 from them they would barely give me the time of day and couldn't put the phone down quick enough
, so I got a quote from Bob Gollihur. I'll have to see how the funds go.BTW, after having done two gigs now I have radically altered the settings on the PX3B. I found the original settings, while sounding good to my ears at home, sounded way to boomy at the gig and didn't cut through at all. I also got a copy of Todd Phillips' Essential Techniques for Acoustic Bass and realised a 'real' upright is actually quite 'bright'. Here are my new settings, let me know what you think.
Tube1: +14, Low: +3, Mid: +14, High: -8, Presn: 0, Trim: -12, Gara1: 10
I turned the EQ.Trim down because I found some distortion when playing two note chords and the slight reverb gives it a livelier sound too. I've also raised the bridge height, and that changes the tone as well. I play with a quartet made up of myself, two electro-acoustic guitarists and a percussionist. We play Latin oriented material and the new settings sit much better than the earlier ones.
Mike
Bob Gollihur recommend 3/4 length strings, perhaps the owner used 4/4 strings and by wrapping around the outside made them fit. Like you I assumed the correct way to fit the strings was to feed them through the holes. But as Jeffn has pointed out the strings do still ride on the back of the body, but I assume that NS consider this to be ok.
Mike
I guess they do, although I would still be inclined to put some protective covering there, if only for the sake of appearances.
Thanks for the update on your progress by the way, it is very informative. While I seem to be getting a good sound without preamp, who knows what I am missing? I'll see if I can find any local shops that stock these gadgets and have a go with one to see what difference it makes. It seems that even something simple like the K&K preamp may make a difference;
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The wav 4 is great isn't it? I gigged mine for the first time today on a celtic gig, and it sounded awesome, far more appropriate to the genre than my usual electric bass. There is a real percussive thump going on there that works well with the bohdrans and other acoustic instruments. Tons of dynamics available too, and it allows me to make a huge difference by playing only a few notes. What more could you want? There was not problem cutting through; when the bass was there, you didn't half know it, and when it wasn't, you knew that too!
I also bought a bow for it on Friday, which sounds awesome. In fact, to my uninitiated ears, I'd say that the arco sound is more immediately double bass like than pizz. Now I just have to learn how to use it...
The tripod stand has been playing up - where the pan/tilt/roll joint attaches to the main tripod became shoogly very quickly, so I knocked out the split pins as replaced them with a sturdier screw as advised on this thread. It has made a difference - when I can get an M4 bolt I think that will improve it further. I am actually wondering if the endpin stand with "bout" would be a better approach altogether though; as pointed out on a discussion elsewhere, the thumb of your left hand has to work harder with the tripod than it would with a traditional double bass as you can get the whole of your arm into holding the notes more easily, and not have to rely on the thumb and fingers so much. Does anyone have any experience of the endpin stand?
Jennifer
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