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Double Bass NS Design WAV4 megathread part I

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Bad news. TI Superflexible 3/4 Orchestra strings DON'T fit. I started restringing with the G and it was fine, then came to the D and it's way too short when strung through the holes in the rear plate, the binding at the nut extends to around the E position, and they are way to long when strung through the normal holes, the end binding extends past the bridge by more than an inch or so. I didn't try the A and E but they also look too short. £70 down the drain, not happy :mad:

Hmmm...not what I would have expected either, given that the instrument is equipped with anchor drillings supposedly intended to allow you to use "traditional" DB strings.

Your latest PX3B settings are all dialled in for trying out at our next band practice this weekend. Will be sure to report back. Thanks again for them. Good good luck sorting out a solution for those strings. Jeff
 
I did another gig last night but I'm finding that as the evening goes on and the humidity rises the strings get sticky making it difficult to slide with my right hand and pluck with my left. Its particulary difficult with the plucking as the stickiness really affects the rhythm of my playing. Any suggestions?

The strings are well played in now and I no longer get any of the black residue, so that's not an issue.

Mike
 
Hmmm...not what I would have expected either, given that the instrument is equipped with anchor drillings supposedly intended to allow you to use "traditional" DB strings.

Your latest PX3B settings are all dialled in for trying out at our next band practice this weekend. Will be sure to report back. Thanks again for them. Good good luck sorting out a solution for those strings. Jeff

Many thanks Mike - Those updated PX3B settings that you worked out do give more presence, and certainly "cut through" the mix better though without compromising the WAV sound. Well discovered! :)

You mentioned stickiness on the playing surfaces. I get similar towards the end of a 3-4 hour session. I never got into trying products like "Fastfret" on the EB, but in my sheer ignorance did wonder if there might be something like that out there suitable for an EUB.

Folks - any opinions much appreciated - thanks for your help.
 
Many thanks Mike - Those updated PX3B settings that you worked out do give more presence, and certainly "cut through" the mix better though without compromising the WAV sound. Well discovered! :)

You mentioned stickiness on the playing surfaces. I get similar towards the end of a 3-4 hour session. I never got into trying products like "Fastfret" on the EB, but in my sheer ignorance did wonder if there might be something like that out there suitable for an EUB.

Folks - any opinions much appreciated - thanks for your help.

It's good to hear you like the new settings. I'm getting really good reaction from people at the gigs so must be doing something right :)

So it's not just me with the stickiness. I have tried Fastfret it seems to help for about a millisecond then only seems to compound the problem. A friend suggested chalk powder, and when I come to think about it I'm sure years ago I saw DB players using something like that. However, whilst dusting the bass at the weekend with a little silicone polish I ran the cloth up the strings, that really helped, and lasted. I think I might squirt a bit of silicone polish on a duster and take that with me, it shouldn't do any harm. Or maybe do what some say Jaco did and use fried chicken grease. :D
 
Back from trying out the WAV in a live situation for the first time, and I'm very pleased. I ran it through Channel 2 of the Bassbone, using the K&K Pure Preamp, straight into the church sound system, which is state-of-the-art, less than a year old. Both boxes were set with a very slight bass boost, which I later rolled off because the sound guy found a bit of a problem at around 150HZ, but he said it was a node between cabinets and not a problem. We have no amps -- guitars, bass , drums and keys go straight o the board and we use in-ears.

I love the sound! Massive low end without being woofy, and a nice punch, too. I'd have to guess that it sounds more electric than URB -- I doubt that a URB would have the punch of the WAV -- but it was a very pleasing sound. Songs that I normally would use my Lakland 55-94 on still sounded rockish, although I do miss that low B. But we also do some traditional hymns where the WAV made a big difference. Everyone -- even people who have never said a thing to me in five years -- commented on how great the sound is. The lows are killer, especially in a big system.

How the sound translates for a dedicated URB guy, I don't know, having played only electric bass for 40 years. But for an EB guy making the transition, it's very easy. Not hard to stay in tune, and I had no thumb soreness or other problemsthat some of the players on this board have mentioned. And, assome others have commented, going over to a 41-inch scale with no frets makes you more conscious of the basics. On electric, I don't have to think. On the WAV, I do, but that's a good thing. I also found the stock stand to be solid, but maybe I'm not as aggressive ot active a player as some people who have played URB before.

I had one of the first Steinberger L2s 25 years ago, and I'll have to say that Ned still does things right. A great instrument at a great price.
 
I had a chance to play today and the blackness is definitely caused by the strings, not the fingerboard. I wiped the strings down with a plain cloth and it helped but I think alcohol is the ticket. It plays very well, although I still need to push up the bridge on the G side to keep it the G and D from bottoming out above the octave. Soundwise, it is sweet, and I like both settings for the piezos, but favor the pizz mode. In arco, the plucked sound is a bit TOO percussive for me. Very nice instrument, and I think he transition will be easier than I thought. I think having played on a 35" Lakland fiver for the past four years has helped.

Pizz is refering Pizzicato[spell?] mode and it is meant to be played finger style, arco is meant to be used with a bow like a cello that is why it doesn't sound right in arco mode just incase you or anyone else didn't know that. These are some sick Eub's.
 
Pizz is refering Pizzicato[spell?] mode and it is meant to be played finger style, arco is meant to be used with a bow like a cello that is why it doesn't sound right in arco mode just incase you or anyone else didn't know that. These are some sick Eub's.

That would appear to be the default case, however, when asked to express a preference, 10 out of 10 cats have said that my wav4 sounds more like a double bass when played pizzicato style in arco mode than in pizz mode. In pizz mode the feeling is that it sounds more like a bass guitar.

Pizzicato playing does come out very percussive when in arco mode, but I've found that this percussiveness varies greatly with the amp used. Also, EQ can be used to tame it somewhat; reducing a frequency somewhere in the low mids seems to help. Compression can also help tame that initial attack, but I prefer to play without it.

The thing about that percussive attack when in arco mode, it sounds odd when the bass is played solo, but mix it in with a drum kit, percussion, or other acoustic instruments and it works really well.

Jennifer
 
The thing about that percussive attack when in arco mode, it sounds odd when the bass is played solo, but mix it in with a drum kit, percussion, or other acoustic instruments and it works really well.

Jennifer

The arco mode reacts differently because it's set to sense for bowing. I can see that, with it's rapid decay, the arco mode will sound more like a URB. I'll try it out with the band and see. I DO love the arco sound -- plaster-loosening lows! I have a fretless electric and it doesn't sustain as much as the WAV. I still don't see how Tony Levin can play the thing sideways, but maybe he has longer arms than I do.
 
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