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Official 2011-2012 NHL Regular Season Thread; Second Period

#461
To avoid spoilers I'm skipping through a few posts here but just wanted to say,...RE Center Ice/Game Center Live,....by torrenting I don't have to deal with some of the more frustrating aspects of those services (IE Blackouts IE HD restricitons IE lack of real DVR functions even though they advertise DVR functionality).

I don't even have to watch commercials. :D
 
#463
Broadstbully22 said:
How is that kronwall hit not a penalty. Shanahan will suspend him. This is B.S.
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It was definitely a direct hit to the head. Voracek was looking down though, so Kronwall will probably get away unscathed.

I'm very worried about Voracek though. Nasty initial hit; but even more scary when he went down HARD and slammed the back of his head on the ice. Plus, his helmet was already coming off from the initial hit and might not have offered him much, if any protection when his head hit the ice. Either way, I'm afraid he's lost for the season/playoffs. Anytime a player's arms start having spasms like that (when he hit the ice), you know that it's a bad concussion. And he's been playing so well, too.
 
#464
I just watched the Voracek Kronwall hit several times. I think the Detroit broadcast gives a better view of how the play develops. Niklas Kronwall Completely Destroys Jakub Voracek 03/06/12 - YouTube

If Kronwall makes contact at 0:55 in this video, it is a clean body on body hit. But Voracek turns his head up ice at 0:56 and that is the point of contact. He did not lead with the elbow and came in for a body check. I think the hit is clean and deserves no punishment.
 
#465
Voracek took a look to see who was ahead when before he looked down for the puck. Kronwall was standing there. He goes for the puck, at that moment Kronwall takes off and goes for him.

Partly Voracek's fault for taking so long a look at the puck, but Kronwall looks for hits where he can hurt players and then runs and hides. Worse, look at his hits and how many of them he leaves his skates on. Last game against Philly he turned his back and left his skates to blast Briere into the boards. No penalty call on that one either. Not like Shanahan is ever going to give a suspension to a Red Wing. And yikes did Shanny get the announcement out fast this morning!
 
#471
You look for a guy to put his head down. I get it. He put himself into a bad situation. I love big hits to. Kronwall still knew what he was about to do. Then the puss hid. I love how we responded with a big fu short handed goal. And bryz is looking awesome. I like in his post game how he told everyone to stop worrying about him," I'm ok now".
 
#473
Another game, another win. Thiessen is filling in nicely for Johnson. I was happy to see Kennedy and Lovejoy out there, and the young guy Strait getting some meaningful ice time. Very cool to hear the NBC guys give a shout out for young defenseman Joe Morrow who plays in the WHL for the Portland Winterhawks. Before we moved to New Hampshire, I got to see him play when Portland was in town to play the Seattle Thunderbirds.

Toronto is tough to watch, especially their defense. I saw some lazy switches and sloppy puck handling tonight. Gustavsson didn't play all that bad really, his defense let him down too many times. I was actually hoping they would have won the game tonight.

Great game in Buffalo as Pominville punches in the game winner about a minute into OT.

-Mike
 
#475
Kromwall could have let up on Vorecek and still negated him from the play. Kromwall may not have picked Voracek's head,...but he got his head,....if we are preaching consistency in respecting players and holding players responsible for their decisions; then Shanny jump the shark. Kromwall didn't have to level the guy. I'm all for good hard hits and those occur all day long around the league and people don't get injured. There is a line though and the rules are still vague.

I'm more concerned about the length of time it took for the refs to blow the play dead. We got a guy injured and potentially in danger and the refs waited entirely way to long to blow the whistle. Maybe this isn't a time to wait for the team with the injured player posses the puck.

Beyond that,...glad to see G score. Talbots goal was awesome as well and Bryz was a joy to watch. I liked all the communicating I saw from Giroux and getting his linemates pumped up. He was very visible on the ice and he needs to keep that up.
 
#477
warwick.hoy said:
Kromwall could have let up on Vorecek and still negated him from the play. Kromwall may not have picked Voracek's head,...but he got his head,....if we are preaching consistency in respecting players and holding players responsible for their decisions; then Shanny jump the shark. Kromwall didn't have to level the guy. I'm all for good hard hits and those occur all day long around the league and people don't get injured. There is a line though and the rules are still vague.

I'm more concerned about the length of time it took for the refs to blow the play dead. We got a guy injured and potentially in danger and the refs waited entirely way to long to blow the whistle. Maybe this isn't a time to wait for the team with the injured player posses the puck.

Beyond that,...glad to see G score. Talbots goal was awesome as well and Bryz was a joy to watch. I liked all the communicating I saw from Giroux and getting his linemates pumped up. He was very visible on the ice and he needs to keep that up.
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Actually, had that been me, I would have lined Voracek up for an awesome hip check! Flip him through the air and avoid crushing the head. Hip checks seem to be a lost art.

The general rule in hockey has always been to let the play go on unless the injured player is in the line of fire so to speak. The only exceptions seem to be goalies, star player, or life threatening injuries.

One notable one for Flyers fans was when Sami Kapenen got absolutely blasted by Darcy Tucker in game 6 the 2004 Eastern Conference Semi-final. Sami had no clue what universe he was in and tried valiantly to get back to the bench with the entire Flyer bench screaming at him and the refs. Took him about 30 seconds to get to the bench and after he did, Jeremy Roenick came off the bench to score the game winner in OT. Look for that one on YouTube.
 
#480
mkandolf said:
Actually, had that been me, I would have lined Voracek up for an awesome hip check! Flip him through the air and avoid crushing the head. Hip checks seem to be a lost art.

The general rule in hockey has always been to let the play go on unless the injured player is in the line of fire so to speak. The only exceptions seem to be goalies, star player, or life threatening injuries.

One notable one for Flyers fans was when Sami Kapenen got absolutely blasted by Darcy Tucker in game 6 the 2004 Eastern Conference Semi-final. Sami had no clue what universe he was in and tried valiantly to get back to the bench with the entire Flyer bench screaming at him and the refs. Took him about 30 seconds to get to the bench and after he did, Jeremy Roenick came off the bench to score the game winner in OT. Look for that one on YouTube.
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I was actually watching that game when it happened.
 

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