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Official 2011-2012 NHL Regular Season Thread; Second Period
- Thread starter MJ5150
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I might agree with you right up until I see Tampa Bay's "forecheck" sink its teeth into it.....
Thanks Mike. Seemed as though Sid was hinting at Kronwall's history of delivering checks like that, but he was also very diplomatic. He never called him a cheap-shot artist or anything like that. I do agree with Sid when he said he wouldn't want to be in Shanahan's shoes when deciding what to do regarding that particular hit. I had a pretty good idea from the start that Kronwall would not be disciplined for it.
I think that it could have gone either way. But I also believe that had the hit been by a Flyer on a Red Wing, there would have been a suspension...
10 years ago Eric Lindros put his head down crossing the blueline to look for the puck. Scott Stevens, one of the cleanest most devastating hitters to ever play the game, put Lindros down. Game and career over. Don't think Eric came back from that.
First thing they teach you when start playing hockey at 6 years old is to keep your darn head up!!!
Saw the hit. Thought it was clean. It's hockey.
First thing they teach you when start playing hockey at 6 years old is to keep your darn head up!!!
Saw the hit. Thought it was clean. It's hockey.
Tampa's "forecheck" wouldn't exist with the red line back in, that's just it. Tampa plays that trap because that red line is out. They do that to protect that long pass and blasting through the zone at speed. Having the red line forces you to make plays in the neutral zone instead of setting up those tap ins at the blue line.
And that really made me sick. That was very clean. Hated that Lindros could never seem to skate with his head up when he had the puck.
Oh yes it would. The trap was alive & well long before they removed the offside pass.
I see your point & in theory it makes sense, and I originally disagreed with its removal when it was first discussed. Now I'm not sure, having seen the game with the redline gone. There are pros & cons to both, I suppose.
Geddyfleaharris said:
I was at that game. It was ugly. Lindros didn't play again for the Flyers after that, but he did play a few seasons with the Rangers and part of a season with the Maple Leafs.
basstotheface said:
He was overrated, overpayed, concussion prone and at the end he hated philadelphia and it's fans. I'm still not on the bandwagon of fans that like him now. He was told he'll be the best ever and when he wasn't he blamed everyone but himself.
Eric always dropped his head. It was like he thought he was so big he was invincible.
Ya I forgot he played for the Rangers. Not sure if he was ever the same when he came back.
I liked Eric. He got a bad rap not wanting to go to Quebec after being drafted but I actually think it was more his mom who was the problem.
There's the left wing lock trap made most famous by the Red Wings, a true trap, then there's that blasted wait way back at the blue line 'trap' of Tampa's. The former always existed, the latter only with Boucher and Tampa since the lockout.
Lindros was great. Absolutely great. Then came the concussions, his parents' involvement, the feud with Clarke, and it went downhill from there. Rangers, Toronto, Dallas.
I prefer to remember the wrecking ball Legion of Doom version. Loved that one. Unstoppable. Funny how he could dish out the hits and make opponents tremble in fear, but had that glass jaw. His Achille's heel.
I was really glad to see him put the Flyers jersey on once again for the Winter Classic and him and LeClair light the lamp again.
I prefer to remember the wrecking ball Legion of Doom version. Loved that one. Unstoppable. Funny how he could dish out the hits and make opponents tremble in fear, but had that glass jaw. His Achille's heel.
I was really glad to see him put the Flyers jersey on once again for the Winter Classic and him and LeClair light the lamp again.
Boys looked great tonight. Bryz is getting hot right when we need him to, and everyone is motivated and hustling. Got me kinda excited.
to OT we go...familiar territory over the past month...what a game so far!
edit....and SO....
edit: BOOYA! too bad sharks pick up a point, but it's another big 2 for big D. Souray went out- hopefully nothing too bad. Rumor has it that Morrow could be back next week....though Ott is now out with a bad back too...Can't wait to see this team in full health, maybe just in time for playoffs.
Also, a big thanks to Columbus, who after taking care of phx twice recently, also took care of business against LA tonight...and phx loses again, in SO. Tough fall for them after the momentum they had...the Stars only need to reach out and take the Pacific division title.
edit....and SO....
edit: BOOYA! too bad sharks pick up a point, but it's another big 2 for big D. Souray went out- hopefully nothing too bad. Rumor has it that Morrow could be back next week....though Ott is now out with a bad back too...Can't wait to see this team in full health, maybe just in time for playoffs.
Also, a big thanks to Columbus, who after taking care of phx twice recently, also took care of business against LA tonight...and phx loses again, in SO. Tough fall for them after the momentum they had...the Stars only need to reach out and take the Pacific division title.
So long as we're still on the subject of hits, I would like to throw out Scott Stevens' destruction of Ronnie Francis in the playoffs about 10 years ago. The way Francis tried in vain to make it to the bench afterward just made the hit seem that much worse.
BTW, did anyone see Mike Green's hit on Brett Connolly tonight? Looked pretty gutless to me as Connolly was already being checked by Orlov. Wouldn't be surprised if Shanny handed out some form of discipline.
