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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club
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You need a SuperCompact to fill that gap!
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I bet you can manage it with just One10. At least with other instruments being acoustic.
Brought my new BB2 (and my good old 700RB) to our rehearsal room today - guess which rig I like better
(sorry for the poor quality of the pic)
(sorry for the poor quality of the pic)
I own both a SuperTwin and a BBII. If I am going to only bring one cabinet to a gig it is the SuperTwin. As already mentioned you can turn down. I find the sound from the SuperTwin to be much fuller and due to the height of the cabinet it is easier to hear on stage than the BBII by itself, especially if the stage is small and I have to stand close to my rig. For most gigs I use both cabinets since I like to hear a full deep sound that isn't blaring and loud. The BBII by itself will get really loud but for what I like to hear I don't particularly care for the sound of a single speaker cabinet turned up to compensate for the lack of driver area to move air. Ultimately, though, it is all about being able to hear what you want and need to hear so there is no "best answer".
Have a great gig!
There's a lot of sweet gear in that picture, especially that bass!
I just got back from rehearsal and I was playing my SR5 through a BB2 also. I brought my Mesa head tonight, though, instead of my G-K.
I think the One10 would be fine in my experience, though the ST will obviously do the job with no 'if's about it! Nothing wrong with turning the volume down.
Last Saturday I played a pub that had 50+ people in a weird room. Most of the seating was in front of us with an L-shaped bar, high top and low tables, and seating behind us. Played through dinner with lots of chatter amongst the patrons. I usually use my Two10s, but brought the One10 this time with a TC BH250 and I had plenty for the gig. We try to stay quiet for this gig, but our drummer likes to play louder and we sometimes creep up volume-wise. There were some problems with the PA cutting out, so vocals and guitar would cut out intermittently. During one such "break" drummer and I did a rousing version of Wipeout to keep the crowd entertained
The One10 performed admirably for this gig and had plenty to spare.
Alas i feel i have parted with more than enough £ for quite a while for cab-bage...there's so many other things i have gas for! If i ever get another BF i suspect it will be another One10 so i can then double up if needed...i do like the mini-beast!
Thanks for all the suggestions, i am definately curious to see whether i can do a gig with the One10 sometime, but the ST is the safebet. Happy to turn it down but sometimes the only way i can is via backing off the gain on my amp which then has a knock on effect with the tone and valve drive etc
This sounds exactly like the gig i have tonight. I have the exact same set up as my mini rig, sounds great jamming along with our acoustic guitarist, but haven't tried to see how high i can boost the sound levels out of it yet
alexclaber
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It's been a while since I've done this but you're now going to suffer a rant. Exactly what do you mean by "design for manufacture? Amateur hour."?
Can you propose a better way to make a cloth grill for an extremely LOUD speaker which will not rattle after thousands of hours of use? The grills are designed to be fitted and then left in place for good. We added the pull tab so that if we have a sonic fault in QC, or if an owner has a fault or blows a speaker, then it's easier (but far from easy) to remove the grill.
Maybe you meant "design for servicing?" To which I would retort that it's rare to need to remove a grill - and it's still possible but yes it is not easy - because you shouldn't need to remove it!
So I'd like an explanation as to how "standards are higher at this price point" and what unicorn solution you have!
The last thing we want is emails from people who've decided to take the grill off at a gig and knocked a mic or cymbal stand through a cone, which is going to take a few hundred £ to put right.
And no, you can't change a steel grill cab to a cloth grill cab or vice versa - the baffles are built differently. It would be easier if they weren't but we have never been able to think of a reliable durable method for manufacture and use. If anyone has a bright idea, then I'm all ears (not sarcastic!)
I think the build quality of my Super Compact is superb. I can find no faults with it, and no ways in which it could be improved. I love the exterior finish. I haven't taken the cloth grille off though, which is normally the first thing I'd do just to have a look inside. I'm a bass player. We're like that.
Exactly the same here: Saw the pull tab and had to pull (I'm bassist and engineer, even worse..). But I realized immediately that the grill won't come off
Hi guys,
I currently use a Quilter BB800+Super Midget combo as my main rig. I'm thinking about getting a Trace Elliot Elf as a backup amp, rehearsal amp, possibly small gigs amp?
I'm curious to hear from you guys how loud the Elf can be with a single Super Midget.
Thanks.
I currently use a Quilter BB800+Super Midget combo as my main rig. I'm thinking about getting a Trace Elliot Elf as a backup amp, rehearsal amp, possibly small gigs amp?
I'm curious to hear from you guys how loud the Elf can be with a single Super Midget.
Thanks.
You should get a pretty good idea from setting your amp at 200w I would think.
I'm not sure I can, to be honest. It's a peculiar amp with a peculiar power section. When keeping the Gain low, I usually play at rehearsals with the master around 400W, while I have it around 160/200W when the gain is set high.
I keep reading that the Elf is surprisingly loud even at 8 ohms with a single speeaker, and we all know that a Super Midget can be VERY loud.
I need an advice from somone owning this couple, I guess.
I keep reading that the Elf is surprisingly loud even at 8 ohms with a single speeaker, and we all know that a Super Midget can be VERY loud.
I need an advice from somone owning this couple, I guess.
If you compare sensitivity between Elf cab and your cab you might get more of an idea. I doubt your cab is all that sensitive given never a free lunch with power handling. So it would come down to how loud you need your backup to be.
Iirc the Elf amp gets 160w at 8 ohm clean. As I understand it your amp is a weird one with the gain taking effect as a ''gain'' when the output is set low. So in theory you could mimic the Elf gain staging by setting it for 200w at 4 ohm and turning up the input until it gets a hair on and that ought to be similar to the Elf with a hair on and the master dimed.
Thanks for your help. English is not my native language, plus you're going waaaay too much in deep with technical stuff I don't understand very well. This is what I know:
My amp gets 800W at 4 ohm, 400W at 8 ohm. My only cab is a SM (8 ohm), so I have 400W basically. I just want to know if an Elf+single SM can deliver enough volume to play at rehearsals and maybe small gigs.
My amp gets 800W at 4 ohm, 400W at 8 ohm. My only cab is a SM (8 ohm), so I have 400W basically. I just want to know if an Elf+single SM can deliver enough volume to play at rehearsals and maybe small gigs.
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I also use BB800 and Super Midget but I'd rather set the output lower than change the gain. Gain is always between 6 and 7 marks on my Quilter. I am not sure about the Elf but I also use my SM with GK MB200 for lower volume staff, which is I believe a comparable volume to Elf. But I'd rather use it at home practice cause it won't keep up with a drummer in a live setting. I think Elf is about the same as MB200 in terms of power and sensitivity, and remember also that SM loves LOTs of power which your Quilter is very good at but Elf...not really
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It depends on your band overall volume. If you have hard hitting drummer, loud guitar rig etc. Elf will manage with kinda acoustic band easily. In my experience (I compared my SM powered by both Quilter BB800 and GK MB200), MB200 is struggling to keep up and it's quite noticeable.
