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Official Zon Club Part 2

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The Legacy standard is an import model- it has a veneer top, a wood neck, Seymour Duncan Bassline pickups, and is made outside of the country (though finish work, fretwork, assembly, etc is done at the US shop). It is not a custom instrument and has little to do with the stuff you are looking at. It's like $1000, where the Elite versions are around $4000+, so they are completely different instruments.

The US model Legacy comes in two versions- the Elite and the Elite Special. The Elite is just called Elite because it is their "top of the line" instrument. It usually comes with a mahogany body, set neck, Bartolini pickups, their proprietary preamp and whatever top you are looking for. You can change the pickups and body wood if you wanted, of course. The Elite Special is basically the same, but it comes standard with a bubinga top and with the pickups in bridge/mid positions instead of bridge/neck.
 
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ModuMan said:
That is AWESOME! And I'm jealous of your gold hardware, that's the only thing I would have changed on mine. I agree with your assessment of the bass's sound.

My strap button is underneath the horn which I found totally scary. I swapped them out for Dunlop straplocks but I kept it in the same spot. No trouble at all.

One other thing though, is that I would love to upgrade the Schaller tuners. The gear ratio is pretty low and while it holds its tuning just fine, getting there is not as smooth as it should be. Is there such a thing as a direct drop-in (the footprint is a little weird) with a higher ratio?

I also emailed Zon about a hardware upgrade and, naturally, got no response at all.

My serial number is 31190548. If you get a response, could you ask about mine as well?
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Hey there "bass twin!"

I'll ask if I hear back from Zon. Looks like our numbers are not too different - could it be that yours is serial number 548, and mine is 555, and yours was completed March 11, 1990, and mine was completed March 12 1990? Seems too easy, but that would be pretty neat!

I have the same issue with the tuners (weird footprint) but mine seem to work well enough that I am not too concerned yet. They are heavy though...

Anyhow - I'll let you know what I learn!
 
#231
Again FYI, no technician will have any trouble drilling new holes. There is not particularly difficult about drilling holes in carbon, especially at this size. They may barely notice, if not for the different in chip shape.
 
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Angus said:
Again FYI, no technician will have any trouble drilling new holes. There is not particularly difficult about drilling holes in carbon, especially at this size. They may barely notice, if not for the different in chip shape.
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I fully agree - actually I would be very comfortable drilling the holes myself, but part of me wants the bass to remain "as Joe intended" for some reason. Okay, that sounds weird.

I guess I mean that generally if there is a way to modify an instrument that doesn't require another set of holes in it, it seems preferable to me, not because of the work involved, but because of the "less holes" that result. :)

Anyhow, you are right - it'd be easy to do.
 
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Angus said:
Read the second half of that sentence- I was intentionally ignoring the fact that the tuners are there and saying that the bridge as it is now would just barely fit along the string axis as it is (and would obviously necessitate a headed bass).

It actually wouldn't be difficult to incorporate tuners in their bridge design, but would still be expensive to build and would completely miss the point of the Hyperbass setup as you'd still yield only half the functionality.
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Hipshot is currently working on de-tuners for their new headless bridge.
 
#234
Yeah, I've heard about that- they've been threatening to do it for years. There's nothing necessarily difficult about designing it. My point was that if you have a headless design, you take your possible detuning points from 8 down to 4, so either way you won't really have a Hyperbass anymore.
 
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sundaybender said:
I fully agree - actually I would be very comfortable drilling the holes myself, but part of me wants the bass to remain "as Joe intended" for some reason. Okay, that sounds weird.

I guess I mean that generally if there is a way to modify an instrument that doesn't require another set of holes in it, it seems preferable to me, not because of the work involved, but because of the "less holes" that result. :)

Anyhow, you are right - it'd be easy to do.
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I feel the same way, having exposed holes (that only I would see!) still seems a little off. I think I'd like to try a new set of Schallers first and if that doesn't do it for me I'll get a set of Gotoh tuners and do the operation.

On the gold hardware version, is it just the tuners, strap buttons and bridge? It looks like the jack plate is still black.
 
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Angus said:
Yeah, I've heard about that- they've been threatening to do it for years. There's nothing necessarily difficult about designing it. My point was that if you have a headless design, you take your possible detuning points from 8 down to 4, so either way you won't really have a Hyperbass anymore.
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Yes, you are absolutely correct.
 
#240
I know a few things, but you'll have to ask Todd.

It's all a matter of mold combinations, and he's set up to do 32", 34" and 35" scale now for most string counts and spacing, so you could get the same thing as Todd if you asked.
 
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