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Once again, Rush dissapoints
- Thread starter MGR
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Rather than focus on a handful of songs a band doesn't play or a couple they do play that you don't like--focus on what they do play that you like--and enjoy the concert you get.
I've seen Neil Young twice--one time he mostly played a Gretsch or an acoustic--and was mellower than my preferences--but he still played some good songs, and above all--he put on a greta performance--and I was entertained.
The other time he played a Les Paul just about the whole time. I was loud and rocking and fun. His performance was energetic and I was entertained.
But there were some people behind us that kept complaining between songs that he wasn't playing certain songs, instead of enjoying the concert they were at.
I've seen Neil Young twice--one time he mostly played a Gretsch or an acoustic--and was mellower than my preferences--but he still played some good songs, and above all--he put on a greta performance--and I was entertained.
The other time he played a Les Paul just about the whole time. I was loud and rocking and fun. His performance was energetic and I was entertained.
But there were some people behind us that kept complaining between songs that he wasn't playing certain songs, instead of enjoying the concert they were at.
It occurs to me, the situation reminds me of Stan Lee's philosophy on comics - Always assume that every issue is somebody's first comic book. Don't assume they've been loyal readers for years and already know what's going on. The OP seems to be coming from the perspective that everyone who goes to a show this tour has already seen Rush live a dozen times and wants something different. That will be true of a lot of the crowd, but not everybody. I've been a Rush fan for some time, but the Clockwork Angels tour was the first time I had it together (money, awareness of dates, etc.) to actually go see them live. If ALL they had played was Clockwork Angels and deep cuts I barely recognized, I would have been pissed. It might have turned me off to future tours.
This could be the last tour. I'll go even if they play back to back to back Tom Sawyer.
Haven't read the OP or any of the comments....
....going to Chicago and Toronto (2nd night)
Don't want to know the setlist... (there should be a SPOILER tag on the OP title)
Doesn't matter what they play really,just that they are still going.
....going to Chicago and Toronto (2nd night)
Don't want to know the setlist... (there should be a SPOILER tag on the OP title)
Doesn't matter what they play really,just that they are still going.
My main concern for Austin next Saturday is not what they are playing, but rather the weather and not getting zapped by lightning. 
Well...at rock concerts one has the ear of an audience and I think it is not a bad thing at all if one informs attendees of certain important issues.
So, I'm all for it.
Not to derail...
I go to concerts to leave today's issues at home and feel people should educate themselves to facts, rather than take it from a mouthpiece using the stage as a podium to espouse their personal politics or environmental/religious views. One simply can't take someone's word on such an important issue and assume they have all the facts or the best interests of their side in mind.
Of course the irony here is that an artist like Neil has been doing this since the 60's, so one should probably expect a protest song or two
, but I'd personally be more inclined to pay for a ticket for a tour in support of an album whose only "cause" is musical enjoyment...which is why I won't be seeing Neil and Willie Nelsons sons playing these new songs...it's not that I don't agree with the message, it's that I like to keep my concerts and protest rallies separate. I totally respect your point that artists can serve as a way to spread the message, but I'm not buying a ticket for that reason...you might, and that's where I think it relates to what Joe Schmoe Rush fan will hear on this tour, which are the songs they know and love. They paid for their ticket the same way the die hard fan did and once a band decides to drift into obscurity or political meanderings, they should be prepared to alienate a huge portion of their audience at the risk of opening a few minds. That's a chance some artists are willing to take and others are not.
Dam. How much would tix to see the wild game be you think. Lol i live by toronto... never seen a nhl game because there to expensive.
Never seen Rush either but i agree with everyone i want to see rush and i want to hear 2112. And as many drum solos as i can get
Know who doesn't know the difference between a stadium and an amphitheater? You!
Know who hasn't played a stadium in the US since the 80's, and if they attempted it again it would be 5/6th empty? Rush.
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This thread is basically an argument over opinions. The OP stated his, it didn't jive with others, they fired back. Dude ain't going, others are. (/thread, right?)
Me, I got into Rush as a teen in the mid 80s and knew then I missed the boat - for my taste. Great Rush ended with MP for me. I like a lot of their 80s stuff, but it doesn't come close to the sweet spot of Permanent Waves/Moving Pictures. Everything since I've tried really, really hard to like and it just doesn't do it for me. It seems really hard for me to believe that some people only know/like the more recent stuff. But it is all just opinion. Stranger still, to me, are people who can really, really dig all their eras.
The "set list" was a bit of a buzzkill for me, too! Waiting to see what they actually play, though, and how well Geddy's voice holds up. I think the early part of the tour willl be the best because Geddy's singing may start to wear down. Got pretty good seats, will probably go because, well, RUSH! And I might flag a little during some songs, but will totally enjoy 85% of what will be probably be the last chance for me to see the band that is by far the most important part of the 'soundtrack of my life.' Just hoping Tai Shan pops up.
Me, I got into Rush as a teen in the mid 80s and knew then I missed the boat - for my taste. Great Rush ended with MP for me. I like a lot of their 80s stuff, but it doesn't come close to the sweet spot of Permanent Waves/Moving Pictures. Everything since I've tried really, really hard to like and it just doesn't do it for me. It seems really hard for me to believe that some people only know/like the more recent stuff. But it is all just opinion. Stranger still, to me, are people who can really, really dig all their eras.
The "set list" was a bit of a buzzkill for me, too! Waiting to see what they actually play, though, and how well Geddy's voice holds up. I think the early part of the tour willl be the best because Geddy's singing may start to wear down. Got pretty good seats, will probably go because, well, RUSH! And I might flag a little during some songs, but will totally enjoy 85% of what will be probably be the last chance for me to see the band that is by far the most important part of the 'soundtrack of my life.' Just hoping Tai Shan pops up.
I'm not a huge fan of the post Power Windows stuff, at least not total albums like I was with earlier stuff. I have all of them, but I don't know/love all of them. For lots of reasons (life, interest, etc.) I quit learning albums after Power Windows.
The set list is what it is. I am seeing the 3rd show so they should be fresh, but maybe not as polished. I will enjoy the whole concert, some parts more than others, but I can say that about ANY show.
Interesting thread. Some of the reactions are almost as bad as saying that you'd love to buy a Rickenbacker clone.
All this hate and love over a post that is at best complete conjecture on the OP's part. Anyone who knows much about Rush also knows that they have a wicked sense of humor and it would be just like them to publish a fake "setlist." If they are touring behind a new record, they will play some songs from that and then they will play whatever they like to play at the time plus Tom Sawyer. I read an article with Lemmy a while back where he talked about playing Ace of Spades. The interviewer asked him if he ever got sick of playing it, his answer was, "I have to play it, the person who is seeing us for the first time expects to hear it and I want to play it for them (paraphrased)." Tom Sawyer is far from my favorite Rush song, I think the whole Permanent Waves album is seriously underrated and better than Moving Pictures, but I have heard the reactions from the crowds when they play TS and that trumps whatever it is that I think they should play instead...
