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Once again, Rush dissapoints
- Thread starter MGR
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I'd love some more deep cuts, but fans are pretty fickle. I remember seeing Maiden a few years back when they did a tour with just a ton of new material in it. People were bitching up a storm that they weren't playing the hits when I went to the bathroom. Point is, no setlist will please all. I'm going regardless. Got my tickets.
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I saw that Police show, and got to say, it was NOT what I expected at ALL. They added a ton of guitar solos to songs that didn't have them originally, and some of the songs were almost unrecognizable the way they did them.
Now I saw Sting live a couple of years ago, and he was GREAT! Best voice I have ever heard live.
Black Tongue is not really supposed to be a sludgy dirge of a song though. Plain old quarter notes in that 3/4 rhythm would be boring as hell. The part he plays is much more interesting and propels the song along at the pace it's supposed to be at. It sounds like you just want them to be a band that they aren't trying to be.
As far as Iron Maiden, a 35 year old band playing mostly new stuff is the SAME as Rush, not different (just in a different way). No one wants to hear Dance of Death, etc..., they want to hear Murders in the Rue Morgue and stuff like that.
A good setlist for a legacy band is REALLY not that hard. All you have to do is have a reasonable mix of EVERYTHING. A bit of new stuff (as long as it's not horrible), some more recent stuff, older classics/hits, and a few more rare things you haven't done in a while. If you're playing for 2+ hours it shouldn't be that hard to get that kind of blend.
As far as Iron Maiden, a 35 year old band playing mostly new stuff is the SAME as Rush, not different (just in a different way). No one wants to hear Dance of Death, etc..., they want to hear Murders in the Rue Morgue and stuff like that.
A good setlist for a legacy band is REALLY not that hard. All you have to do is have a reasonable mix of EVERYTHING. A bit of new stuff (as long as it's not horrible), some more recent stuff, older classics/hits, and a few more rare things you haven't done in a while. If you're playing for 2+ hours it shouldn't be that hard to get that kind of blend.
I don't know what Police tour you guys saw, but the show I saw (actually the last one they did, at MSG) was pretty awesome. Yes, the arrangements were a bit different (they didn't use backing tracks or offstage musicians at all like they did near the end of their original run) and Sting has been f'ing up the vibe of Every Breath since 1983 by playing this goofy bouncy dumb bass line, killing the awesome behind the beat groove that Stewart and Andy gave the original. But all 3 of them were playing and/or singing great. The setlist covered most of what you would expect. They threw in a cover or 2 (Sunshine of Your Love, etc...).
I mean, of course, if you try to compare it to listening to Zenyatta Mondatta on your giant stereo at home, it's going to be a lot different. Instead you get 3 middle aged dudes playing their asses off for 20 thousand of their closest friends and doing their best to go out with a bang (to help they had the NYPD marching band on a track or 2). I love them for the textured, harmonically rich sound of their studio albums, but those songs are so good they can stand on their own in a more simplified live setting.
I mean, of course, if you try to compare it to listening to Zenyatta Mondatta on your giant stereo at home, it's going to be a lot different. Instead you get 3 middle aged dudes playing their asses off for 20 thousand of their closest friends and doing their best to go out with a bang (to help they had the NYPD marching band on a track or 2). I love them for the textured, harmonically rich sound of their studio albums, but those songs are so good they can stand on their own in a more simplified live setting.
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The DVD's on a big screen and two full-range(3-way) cabinets with 15's work fine here, we're done with arena shows.
Recent experience has pointed a preference at much smaller venues = better sound and "concert" for the $$$.
Example:
Saw Nightwish-Sabaton-Delain last night in Houston at Warehouse Live(in the ballroom section). VIP tickets got us in early, had a project bass body autographed by Nightwish & Delain, and saw Delain's soundcheck with 30 people in the room. We watched the show near the FOH booth. ALL of the operators mixed with their ears so it sounded very good there considering the place is similar to a closed-ended aircraft hangar with an arched wooden roof. Only had to use earplugs once on about the second to last song when things got a bit loud. WAY better than an arena show IME.
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Their Dodger Stadium show wasn't *bad* per se.
It just did not live up to the legend.
Nothing really beats them in 1983, especially not the Police of 2006/2007.
I just wish I could see Rush period!! And hey Jacobs Ladder is actually a pretty complex song, Natural Science is one of my favorites and Far Cry is really great for being newer.
If they don't play "I think I'm going bald"......I'm not going.
JB
JB
Didn't Mötley Crüe do an online vote a few years ago for a set list? Elvis Costello & the Imposters also have done the Spectactular Spinning Songbook (its a big wheel with a bunch of songs on it, sort of a wheel of fortune sorta thing, and what the wheel stops at is what they played). So there are options...
I think Sunshine was only played at like the last three shows or so. I missed out on the tour but I love the arrangements of the songs, (especially Voices Inside My Head/When the World is Running Down), especially after the backing tracks & extra vocalists from the Synchronicity Concert, but the horn section from the 1982 tour was cool. My only complaint is that I wish Sting would've used a fretless on some of the songs (Roxanne, ELTSDIM, Driven to Tears, etc.). I know the chances are very slim, but I'd love to see another tour.
The bottom line is this.
Rush Is Lee lifson peart.
There are no replacements, which has been quoted by all three of them throughout the post VT years.
Far as a set list goes, whatever they choose to play is very calculated by all three, mostly Geddy if I had to guess, to give a quality show. Remember this is THIER show, The ones that have made all this great music possible , thier possible last tour. Whatever they want to play is fine with me as long as they're playing.
Rush is rush because they have always made the music they make or play for themselves, not for anybody else.
That is the main reason they are so unique imho.
I don't think there'll ever be another band like them ever.
While there Prog rock disciples struggle to sell at a club,
trying to fit some preconceived musical niche Rush helped mold.
They Have never been a mainstream band, have never been caught up in drama, no scandals, etc.
Just three outstanding musicians and good friends making awesome music that had been a constant in my life since 82. I have seen every tour multiple show road trips and the thou of that ending breaks my heart.
I will be attending Phoenix, LA and Vegas this year.
Viva RUSH!!!
Rush Is Lee lifson peart.
There are no replacements, which has been quoted by all three of them throughout the post VT years.
Far as a set list goes, whatever they choose to play is very calculated by all three, mostly Geddy if I had to guess, to give a quality show. Remember this is THIER show, The ones that have made all this great music possible , thier possible last tour. Whatever they want to play is fine with me as long as they're playing.
Rush is rush because they have always made the music they make or play for themselves, not for anybody else.
That is the main reason they are so unique imho.
I don't think there'll ever be another band like them ever.
While there Prog rock disciples struggle to sell at a club,
trying to fit some preconceived musical niche Rush helped mold.
They Have never been a mainstream band, have never been caught up in drama, no scandals, etc.
Just three outstanding musicians and good friends making awesome music that had been a constant in my life since 82. I have seen every tour multiple show road trips and the thou of that ending breaks my heart.
I will be attending Phoenix, LA and Vegas this year.
Viva RUSH!!!
I'm taking my 14 YO daughter to see them in Denver in July. She has basically taught herself to play both electric and acoustic guitar in the past 1.5 years and she basically inspired me to pick up the bass (plus I stole her copy of Rocksmith!). This will be her first concert. I wanted to see Geddy play YYZ live since picking up the bass this year. I missed seeing Rush a number of times over the past few years and I'm afraid this may be their last tour. I agree with your sentiments as well. I think they are a class act and one of the bands I respect the most because they are true to the music, themselves, and their fans.
The only thing I really wanted to see is Entre Nous, and La Villa Strangiato but I really wasn't expecting it.
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I made peace with 7/4 (as a drummer) by learning Tom Sawyer as a song but I actually prefer Limelight and prefer both Witch Hunt and Camera to both of them.
The Who simply refused to play My Generation for a decade and a half and then returned to a shortened version of it.
Finally a Q: What's the meaning of R30, R40 etc?
Mugre
I made peace with 7/4 (as a drummer) by learning Tom Sawyer as a song but I actually prefer Limelight and prefer both Witch Hunt and Camera to both of them.
The Who simply refused to play My Generation for a decade and a half and then returned to a shortened version of it.
Finally a Q: What's the meaning of R30, R40 etc?
Mugre
R30 - Rush at 30 years, R40 - 40 years with Peart. though technically it should be r41 Invalid Link Removed
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Wrong band but thanks for playing our game!
BTW - The absolutely best concert I have ever seen in my 53 years was Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, and Howe at the Paramount in Seattle with Tony Levin on bass. Levin was amazing and Bruford did this third encore with a 4 tong African wooden box that lasted about 10 minutes and had the house in total silence and amazement. Truly a magically night!
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What, no "Rivendell", "Entre Nous" or "Red Tide"? That's it then, I'm selling my tickets! 
Seriously though, I have tickets to the July 9th show here in KC. It will be my 13th Rush concert since 1982. I for one am just happy to be able to see them again on what may be their last tour. Heck they could play their own renditions of the songs from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and I would still go see them. Oh wait, I just saw Primus do that last night and it was quite entertaining!
Seriously though, I have tickets to the July 9th show here in KC. It will be my 13th Rush concert since 1982. I for one am just happy to be able to see them again on what may be their last tour. Heck they could play their own renditions of the songs from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and I would still go see them.
Oh wait, I just saw Primus do that last night and it was quite entertaining!
