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Orange Amps questions

#61
Mr. Foxen said:
Pretty sure pushing the power section of the Orange would sound rubbish. There is a limiter in it, which the 4/8ohm switch alters, so it won't break up as such, just limit, which might also be ugly.
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I certainly wouldn't want to push the power section into limiting - don't want ugly. I suspect the gain structures might behave differently between the Gallien-Krueger and Orange amps so the comparison might not be apples to apples. I see more metal, thrash and other high volume players using the TB1000 with classic rock, blues, and funk players favoring the TB500.

bassdrop said:
The TB500 can peak to 900w; I don't even want to know what the TB1000's peaks would be. That said, depending on the efficiency of those cabs, you might be able to run the 1000 more conservatively and have a bit more clean headroom without actually exceeding your drivers' limits. I do know a local bassist who runs the TB1000 with nothing but an Epi 3x10 rated for 700w and he hasn't had any problems with blown drivers.
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If preamp gain is used for your saturation and color while amp size just provides the headroom you need without altering the sound much, then the 500 vs 1000 choice might just be a matter of how much headroom you need? The cabs I listed are quite efficient and if the TB500H can drive a steady 500 watts with peaks up to 900 it looks like a more than adequate match. Thanks. :eek::bassist:
 
#62
I have played the TB500+2xML112 combo and yes it's a great combo for a really aggressive rock sound. It can be dialed back, though, for more "reasonable" genres.

As for the 500 v 1000, I don't know if many people have actually A/B'd them. Never seen a 1000 in a store. I haven't noticed that split by genre in preference. I'd imagine the metal guys getting the 1000 probably just thought "moar power" and bought that one. And the blues guys thought "moar headroom" and bought the 1000, too. :smug:
 
#64
Loads of places do valves. The screws holding the box together are the hardest part of changing them, they are plug and play. But the ones in there are probably Shuguangs, and most brands of valves are rebranded Shuguangs, so any made in China valve is fairly likely to be swapping in the same valves with different writing on. Real difference comes from changing gain factors of the valves, like replacing ECC83 with ECC81.
 
#67
Ok. Got my jjs tubes. Opened up my orange. And guess what.... The orange bass terror already has jjs in them. Lol. So I replaced them anyway an it actually gave me more headroom on my gain knob. (My original issue was I was grinding on 2 on the gain and I was looking for more headroom). I have the tb500 combo. So I guess orange upgraded that combo from the original heads.
 
#71
Mr. Foxen said:
Think later production Bass Terrors has the excessive gain sorted, auditioned one in a shop for a mate recently and it had much more sensible control than previous one.
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Don't ask me why but I ended up with 2 BT1000's and they definitely have different gain structures. The more recent manufacture is way more tame in how the master volume and gain interact.
 
#78
Set me up in a powerboard running of an extension chord running offstage somewhere... Plugged my amp in and switched it on, killed power to the whole venue.

Upon closer inspection the extension chord ran to another powerboard upon which lights were being run which was running to another powerboard upon which more lights and amps were being run. Real amateur day one stuff... Don't daisy chain powerboards and don't run amps and lights on the same circuit.

Anyway... Both amp and cabinet blew before the fuse went... Replacing the fuse didn't help as it just blew again straight away.
 

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