Thanks Bobaloo. Since you are somewhat near Richmond, do you know someone in the general area? I know Jan Hampton in Richmond does a lot of violin and cello repairs so I will check with her first.
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Double Bass Palatino Megathread part I
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Hi,
I used to know someone in Norfolk but haven't spoken to him in some time. I remember a place down near Cary St. but that was also a few years ago. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Bob
I used to know someone in Norfolk but haven't spoken to him in some time. I remember a place down near Cary St. but that was also a few years ago. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Bob
This is a great hread, I've learned a lot on the first 7 pages. I've been playing BG for 11 years now and wanted an EUB for the new jazz band I'm in. I got my Palatino for $320 US, new. My boss made a deal with Palatino direct for a sound booth we make. But it's great to see solutions to the problems I've already noticed:
1st -I'll install the rubber shims under the bridge tomarrow at work and hopefully that wil help with the tone. Thats a great idea and thanks for sharing guys!
2nd -The felt strips for the bridge to stop the horrible ringing.
3rd -New strings. Here's where I need the most help. I play jazz and funky jazz with my upright and pretty much all pizzicato style, can't afford the bow quite yet. Which strings would be good for me? I like a smooth piano like tone, nothing too bright or harsh and hopefully afordable. I use D'Addario Slow Wounds on my Fender jazz because they are smooth and not too bright.
Thanks in advance and it's great to see so many members sharing tips and advice.
-Lew
1st -I'll install the rubber shims under the bridge tomarrow at work and hopefully that wil help with the tone. Thats a great idea and thanks for sharing guys!
2nd -The felt strips for the bridge to stop the horrible ringing.
3rd -New strings. Here's where I need the most help. I play jazz and funky jazz with my upright and pretty much all pizzicato style, can't afford the bow quite yet. Which strings would be good for me? I like a smooth piano like tone, nothing too bright or harsh and hopefully afordable. I use D'Addario Slow Wounds on my Fender jazz because they are smooth and not too bright.
Thanks in advance and it's great to see so many members sharing tips and advice.
-Lew
Lewis7789 said:
If I were you and this is my first upright bass then stick to light strings. The D'Adderio Hybrids lights will do what you want and have a great sound. The second thing I would invest in would a preamp. It helps a great deal with the mixing of the sound. Jazzdude turned me onto a great unit, Tech 21 Model DC2. Its fantasic. I can get so much out if this unit its unbelievable. In fact for a whole week I just tried and documented all the sound variations you can get from this unit.
I have never heard any buzz from my bridge, what doe's it. sound like? Is it loud?
You will have a great time with the Palatino. I'm finding myself going for it way more that the outher basses I have.
I just ordered one from Nothwest Bass today. Supposed to ship tomorrow. 
Thanks to all of you here I think I'll be able to whip 'er into shape once she arrives. Lots of great suggestions for modifying and correcting the small inherent problems and making enhancements.
I'm going to mainly use the Palatino fo recording. Mostly acoustic and "old" style country and cowboy music and then bluegrass. Bowing isn't that important, but it could happen as I'm pretty open to new things. This is one reason I selected the VE-500 instead of a Dean Pace. So, most of the time it's going to be all about the THUMP baby.
The mfg hype says that the string action is lowered more than on an acoustic upright, so it's easier to play, esp. for beginners. Do ya'll find this to be accurate? I hope so...I've played several over the years and thought my wrist was gonna seize up after only a few songs.
I'll be sure to let ya'll know how it works out once I get her home.
Rick
Thanks to all of you here I think I'll be able to whip 'er into shape once she arrives. Lots of great suggestions for modifying and correcting the small inherent problems and making enhancements.I'm going to mainly use the Palatino fo recording. Mostly acoustic and "old" style country and cowboy music and then bluegrass. Bowing isn't that important, but it could happen as I'm pretty open to new things. This is one reason I selected the VE-500 instead of a Dean Pace. So, most of the time it's going to be all about the THUMP baby.
The mfg hype says that the string action is lowered more than on an acoustic upright, so it's easier to play, esp. for beginners. Do ya'll find this to be accurate? I hope so...I've played several over the years and thought my wrist was gonna seize up after only a few songs.
I'll be sure to let ya'll know how it works out once I get her home.
Rick
It is easer to play but I don't think it beacuse of anything but being electric. With electric you get your sound from the amp but with the acoustic it come from just plan hard work. I also on acoustic use Labella Rope Core RC610 strings they are very stiff but produce sonig booms when your out in an open field playing bluegrass. I really like the Palatino and it has open many new avenues to me especially with sound you can never get out of an acoustic.T9c said:I just ordered one from Nothwest Strings today. Supposed to ship tomorrow.
I'm going to mainly use the Palatino fo recording. Mostly acoustic and "old" style country and cowboy music and then bluegrass. Bowing isn't that important, but it could happen as I'm pretty open to new things. This is one reason I selected the VE-500 instead of a Dean Pace. So, most of the time it's going to be all about the THUMP baby.
The mfg hype says that the string action is lowered more than on an acoustic upright, so it's easier to play, esp. for beginners. Do ya'll find this to be accurate? I hope so...I've played several over the years and thought my wrist was gonna seize up after only a few songs.
I'll be sure to let ya'll know how it works out once I get her home.
Rick
As far as string action its very good right out of the box but I keep my acoustics at the same height.
I think you will find the Palatino much better than you expected.
Doug
Hey guys, This is my 1st post in the Uprite section, but Ive had an acoustc uptrite about 10 yrs ago for a short time-didnt end up using & sold her! Now I'm considering a Palitino OR- Has anyone heard of a RILEY EUB- it looks & has exactly the same specs as the Palatino- just wondering if they are putting 'em out under different names or something?? This thread's been very handy for info for me & I reckon I'll go ahead & get one for the jazz band I'm currently playing in. Thanx Guys, Rod
Hi Rod,
yep, according to this Australian site
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Riley and Palatino are the same.
Greetz
Ingo
yep, according to this Australian site
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Riley and Palatino are the same.
Greetz
Ingo
FYI: the Palatino bass is sold worldwide under a number of different names.
When I first came across one, it was known as Straus. Later it was sold by a US distributor under the name Palatino, and that name seems to have stuck to most of these basses. However, I have also spotted the following names:
Riley (Australia), Rave (US), Collins (Germany), Antonius (US), Johnson (US), B.A.D. (UK). Probably doesn´t end there...
The same phenomenon applies to the pretzel-shaped Jisheng basses, a.k.a. Sojing and a few other names, the Arrow/Artisan/B Bass/Carisch/Yamada etcetera EUBs, and the Quest/Landscape/Atelier Z uprights.
The makers, in China or Korea, will slap any decal on the instrument as long as you order many enough; thus some dealers put their own "house brand name" on a bass.
Mikael
When I first came across one, it was known as Straus. Later it was sold by a US distributor under the name Palatino, and that name seems to have stuck to most of these basses. However, I have also spotted the following names:
Riley (Australia), Rave (US), Collins (Germany), Antonius (US), Johnson (US), B.A.D. (UK). Probably doesn´t end there...
The same phenomenon applies to the pretzel-shaped Jisheng basses, a.k.a. Sojing and a few other names, the Arrow/Artisan/B Bass/Carisch/Yamada etcetera EUBs, and the Quest/Landscape/Atelier Z uprights.
The makers, in China or Korea, will slap any decal on the instrument as long as you order many enough; thus some dealers put their own "house brand name" on a bass.
Mikael
I know U've covered a lot of ground in this here thread, but as I'm in Tas. Australia & therefore cannot try one of these out-have to buy thru mail order- can U guys tell me 1. How close is the sound to that of an acoustic uprite? as I just luv that sound, but cant afford a decent one OR the good p/up that I'd need to go with it!!!
2. Does it handle the pressures of gigging weekly OK? I don't mean touring-on a tour bus, but just being put in the back of the car, differing humidity, elecs-are they OK to withstand being plugged in & out often etc etc etc..... Any & all the info U can give me will be helpful. As I will probly get one but as I said, It'll have to be thru mail & therefore I cannot try B4 I buy
etc.. Thanx ROD
rodl2005 said:
1. How close is the sound to that of an acoustic uprite? as I just luv that sound, but cant afford a decent one OR the good p/up that I'd need to go with it!!!
2. Does it handle the pressures of gigging weekly OK? I don't mean touring-on a tour bus, but just being put in the back of the car, differing humidity, elecs-are they OK to withstand being plugged in & out often etc etc etc..... Any & all the info U can give me will be helpful. As I will probly get one but as I said, It'll have to be thru mail & therefore I cannot try B4 I buy
I Rod- I have had my Palatino since December and ups it out once a week and almost every night. I have had not trouble with any of the electronics, construction or any think else for
for that matter. I played it outside last weekend in mid 50 degree weather for 6 hours and it held up fine. As I had said in an earlier posting the bag is my only complaint and that was corrected with a custom bag.
Go for it-Doug
How about the 1st question? How near to an acoustic sound is it? I mean an acoustic with a p/up & played thru an amp etc. I love the boominess & the thump of that sound. So B4 I go & order a Pallatino, Id like an idea of that question. Please ...anyone???????????? Cheers, Rod.
rodl2005 said:
Rod,
Its close. You will need a good amp and preamp to get it dialed in. In all of my travels I haven't heard and EUB that matched the sound you get from acoustics, but with the electronics available today it is possable to get real close.
hey rodl2005,
nice to see another taswegian in the house. im from up north
(lonnie) and bought one of these basses. im the one from a few posts back who dropped it!!! pm me if are interested in trying it out.
cheers, jon
nice to see another taswegian in the house. im from up north
(lonnie) and bought one of these basses. im the one from a few posts back who dropped it!!! pm me if are interested in trying it out.
cheers, jon
Hi Jon- sent U a PM- great also to see another bassist from the great southern Isle! Being isolated down here is great,
it's just a pity that we're so isolated!
But seriously, Thanx NO HANDLES- for your info, I'll prob. go ahead & order one within the next week. Just sounds like a good buy, sound etc.. without the BULK of having an acoustic, or the cost + the P/up & pre-amp etc etc etc.....
If anyone can give me any more info that'll help me confirm my decision to get a Palatino, PLEASE reply.. Thanx. Rod
it's just a pity that we're so isolated! But seriously, Thanx NO HANDLES- for your info, I'll prob. go ahead & order one within the next week. Just sounds like a good buy, sound etc.. without the BULK of having an acoustic, or the cost + the P/up & pre-amp etc etc etc..... If anyone can give me any more info that'll help me confirm my decision to get a Palatino, PLEASE reply.. Thanx. Rod
Mine was waiting for me when I got home from work yesterday. Setup was real easy, but I didn't fiddle around with the action much yet. I thought it played pretty good -much easier than the few times I played an acoustic upright.
I was wary how the bass would sound, especially for recording direct. I hooked up my SansAmp Bass driver and dialed in a good acoustic sound, according to my ears anyway. Plans are to put the thin rubber strips under the bridge feet and piezo, along with getting a cymbal stand to "hang" it on. After that, better strings.
The build quality is excellent for an instrument in this price range. I had none of the issues that others had. I really like this bass. It fits the bill perfectly for my t9c studio.
Thanks to this thread and all of you who gave your suggestions!
Rick
I was wary how the bass would sound, especially for recording direct. I hooked up my SansAmp Bass driver and dialed in a good acoustic sound, according to my ears anyway. Plans are to put the thin rubber strips under the bridge feet and piezo, along with getting a cymbal stand to "hang" it on. After that, better strings.
The build quality is excellent for an instrument in this price range. I had none of the issues that others had. I really like this bass. It fits the bill perfectly for my t9c studio.
Thanks to this thread and all of you who gave your suggestions!
Rick
I've purposley not used this bass for slap bass because of the number of you who has had the fret board pop off. I see no signs of it being loose and have pulled on it hard to see if it would come off. Do any of you slap the Palatino?
My inclination is to just take it off and properly reglue it but I have enough repair work to do.
My inclination is to just take it off and properly reglue it but I have enough repair work to do.
DaBassman said:
It seems a lot of people are using cymbol stands to mount them. I ordered a palatino last week and am sitting home right now hoping it comes today.
From what I have read, you can unscrew the rest and a cymbol boom arm will screw right in.
Do a search for palatino stand and you will see some pictures.
Just get a regular cymbal stand without boom. About $30 at GC. I goofed and got the one with the boom, but after a little tweaking I got it to work just fine. I am able to leave it on that stand now and move it about my studio rooms easlily. I play while on the stand, although I think it was far easier to record with sitting down.
Look at the linked pics posted by derrinleepoole It shows the stand (w/o boom) mounted on the bass.
I'm really enjoying playin' this bass. It's just easier for me than the EB...can't really explain why though.
Problems so far: 1) The nut on the jack is loose. Not a big deal. 2) The tailpiece "sings" (vibrates at a high pitch, like feedback). I put a rolled up tube sock between it and the body.
Rick
Look at the linked pics posted by derrinleepoole It shows the stand (w/o boom) mounted on the bass.
I'm really enjoying playin' this bass. It's just easier for me than the EB...can't really explain why though.
Problems so far: 1) The nut on the jack is loose. Not a big deal. 2) The tailpiece "sings" (vibrates at a high pitch, like feedback). I put a rolled up tube sock between it and the body.
Rick
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