Actually, I have NEVER listened to a Slipknot song. Tonight, I'm gonna listen. It probably shouldn't have taken an event like this for me to do it, but you know, there IS so much music out there...
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Paul Gray form Slipknot found dead
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Be respectful! Really the guy just died and your saying hes selfish because he was addicted to drugs and alcohol.? It's a struggle to get clean. It's really hard. Don't blame the man because addiction can do serious things. If this was even an overdose. Just show some damn respect buddy. Even if you don't like him leave your harsh words out of this because this is a hard time for some people. And calling the man selfish won't help.
On topic... R.I.P. Paul Grey. You were a fantastic bassist.
Paul's death is sad, but i get where you are coming from Jimmy. All reports that I have read say that it is believed that drugs were the cause of Paul Gray's death. He was living what is a dream to many of us here on TB. He
-played in a very successful band
-was respected by fellow musicians
-had a loyal, devoted fan-base of maggots
-was tapped to play in "super-group"
-was able to support his family with music
i would wager that there are aspect of this that we all desire... at the very least, the last of this group.
i've lost friends to drugs and it sucks. the people they leave behind feel a mix of sadness and anger. though i morn their loss, the anger only numbs but never really goes away. Years later, it is hard to celebrate their lives.
Jimmy is calling it how it is- a successful musician who threw it all away because of his disease- a disease that would have been treatable if he came to terms with the fact that their are thing more important than their vices. Sad, yes... but avoidable. People are accountable for their actions, and Paul chose to use drugs.
my condolences to Paul's family, friends, band, and fans, I am sure that this is a difficult event to reconcile.
-played in a very successful band
-was respected by fellow musicians
-had a loyal, devoted fan-base of maggots
-was tapped to play in "super-group"
-was able to support his family with music
i would wager that there are aspect of this that we all desire... at the very least, the last of this group.
i've lost friends to drugs and it sucks. the people they leave behind feel a mix of sadness and anger. though i morn their loss, the anger only numbs but never really goes away. Years later, it is hard to celebrate their lives.
Jimmy is calling it how it is- a successful musician who threw it all away because of his disease- a disease that would have been treatable if he came to terms with the fact that their are thing more important than their vices. Sad, yes... but avoidable. People are accountable for their actions, and Paul chose to use drugs.
my condolences to Paul's family, friends, band, and fans, I am sure that this is a difficult event to reconcile.
Live on young grasshopper!!!
RIP Paul. I haven't listened to Slipknot since I was about 16, but the music spoke to me back then, as it did to most teenagers.
Personally I don't think it matters how he died. JimmyM I can see where you are coming from, but nobody chooses how they are going to die. I'm sure he didn't go into that hotel room knowing he was going to die. Sure, taking drugs is a risk but then again so is driving a car, you wouldn't tsk tsk him if he died in a car crash. But I do agree that it is very sad that he left behind an unborn child.
Goodnight Paul, say hello to Dio when you meet him.
Personally I don't think it matters how he died. JimmyM I can see where you are coming from, but nobody chooses how they are going to die. I'm sure he didn't go into that hotel room knowing he was going to die. Sure, taking drugs is a risk but then again so is driving a car, you wouldn't tsk tsk him if he died in a car crash. But I do agree that it is very sad that he left behind an unborn child.
Goodnight Paul, say hello to Dio when you meet him.
I never liked Slipknot's music or message, but it's sad to hear of this loss. His wife is expecting their first child. Really sad story 
My prayers for his family.
My prayers for his family.ya, sounds like a **** to me, and slipknot was never good, so its almost win win. I feel bad for his wife though.
i never sleep well. why do you think i'm on here all night?
sorry, but i have relatives who have caused a lot of pain in their families' lives because of their drug and alcohol abuse. it's one thing to be on drugs, but when you bring kids into the world and you choose drugs over them, i'm sorry, but i cease caring about how sick YOU are (the royal "you," not you personally).
I will never understand how someone can throw all of what he had away, fame, money, a new family, for just a few minutes of euphoria. Perhaps if he had lived long enough to have held his first child he might have cleaned himself up for good. Such a shame and a waste.
I personally know more people who have died in car crashes than drug overdoses so... yeah, I do.
I would also like to add here that in the USA alone around 40,000 people die from car crashes every year whilst only around 5000-8000 people die from drug overdoses every year, making it, in fact, more statistically likely that you will die in a car crash, making driving a car an even riskier activity.
well i can easily live my life without smack or blow. but i have to drive a car or i'm not going to make any money to live, and i will be forced to live in a tent in the woods and eat minnows and worms. that's a sacrifice i'm not willing to make, so i will take that risk and drive a car. i find that a far cry from voluntarily ingesting drugs that make you a shell of the person you once were and eventually kill you. sorry...maybe i'm the crazy one.
Well, thanks for that interesting bit of information...
Back to the topic at hand...
I saw Slipknot live a few times during my high school years. They rocked, especially Paul. My taste in music has changed significantly since then, but I still have (or should I say had) an appreciation for what they did.
Having said that, I totally agree with what Jimmy is saying. My wife just gave birth to our 2nd child a week ago today and can't even imagine leaving her and my children alone on this world without me. Addiction or not, it amazes me how some fathers will do such potentially harmful things even though they have children or have children on the way. Very sad situation all around.
Just because 40,000 is a bigger number than 5000-8000 it doesn't mean that it is statistically more likely. If 1/5 - 1/8 of people driving cars would spend the time they sit behind the the steering wheel doing drugs, then it would be comparable.
This really sucks. I wasn't even a huge fan, but I got completely sober a year and a half ago for the first time in years and my first gig sober was seeing Slipknot. I just got an ATK and I was talking about him two days ago. Weird synchronicity. It's so easy to say someone should or shouldn't do drugs, but they are quite powerful. I didn't even like Slipknot until I was tripping on mushrooms riding around all night and my friend cranked the hell out of her stereo and I thought "this bassist is a monster". Then I gained some respect. I just hate that he's gone and left his family behind also. There's enough BS in the music industry and this is just more sad news like Peter Steele and DIO.
Its sad to hear. Honestly, people shouldn't be judging whether it ends up being drugs or not. Many of us will never experience a celebrity musician lifestyle, so his situation shouldn't be compared to ours.
