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Phil Spector, Dead at 81
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Joe Meek is another influential record producer (and accomplished recording gear designer) who's legacy is blighted by his murder of a woman, his landlady specifically. Killed her in cold blood before killing himself.
Sid Vicious, Keith Moon, Vince Neil... These are also examples of murder by misadventure wherein the killer was given unchecked privilege to take their shenanigans to the limit.
Sid Vicious, Keith Moon, Vince Neil... These are also examples of murder by misadventure wherein the killer was given unchecked privilege to take their shenanigans to the limit.
yes, he was seriously messed up--I mean best case scenario of being messed up, this is a wig:
Despite what he was & did (& non of us are complete innocents), I still say condolences to any family that cares-and to any friends he had.
Even those who hated him may feel a profound loss.
Despite what he was & did (& non of us are complete innocents), I still say condolences to any family that cares-and to any friends he had.
Even those who hated him may feel a profound loss.
He was bipolar and schizophrenic, and as we know those maladies went largely untreated and even unidentified in the 60s.
More often than not, drunks and druggies are self-medicating to treat or mask an underlying issue. Meek's delusions took the form that he thought Decca Records were secretly recording him.
Sometimes it can trigger the condition though too, but yes many people self medicate. Many bipolars become psychotic when in the manic phase.
I remember that court photo. He was no longer eccentric and tolerated by his industry community by that time, but street-level crazy.
One thing's for sure, this chat string has convinced me to abandon my "Armie Hammer Appreciation Thread" 
One thing's for sure, this chat string has convinced me to abandon my "Armie Hammer Appreciation Thread"
Well, everyone has to eat sometime.
Phil considered this one his masterwork, and the apotheosis of his aesthetic. It took him a couple years to get over it's commercial failure.
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Joe Meek is a very interesting story. He produced some genius stuff in his home studio. “Telstar” by The Tornados and “Have I The Right?” by The Honeycombs for example. Then there’s his own really crazy stuff, like “I Hear A New World” by Joe Meek & The Blue Men. Also I believe he’s among the producers who rejected demos by The Beatles.
Oh and then there’s the unfortunate murder-suicide thing.
Give this one about 30 seconds to get fully wound up.
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Reviewing the single, Billboard wrote: "Exciting dance beat production backs a wailin' Tina vocal on a solid rock tune penned by Barry and Greenwich."[17] It entered the lower end of the Billboard Hot 100 and stopped at No. 88 on the pop chart. The disappointing chart performance resulted in album being shelved in the US. Spector was so disillusioned that he ceased involvement in the recording industry totally for two years, and only intermittently returned to the studio after that. He effectively became a recluse and began to self-destruct.[18]
Ike Turner remarked that "if Phil had released the record and put anybody else's name on it, it would have been a huge hit. But because Tina Turner's name was on it, the white stations classified it an R&B record and wouldn't play it. The white stations say it was too black, and the black stations say it was too white, so that record didn't have a home."[13]
Writer Michael Billig speculated that although earlier records which had mixed black singers with a white pop sound had sold well, by 1966 the black political movement was encouraging African Americans to take a pride in their own culture, and "River Deep – Mountain High" was out of step with that movement.[18]
The single, released on London Records in Europe, was a hit overseas. It peaked at No. 3 in the UK, No. 9 in the Netherlands, and it reached No. 1 in Spain.[19]
George Harrison praised the record,[1] declaring it "a perfect record from start to finish. You couldn't improve on it."[20][21]
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Keith Moon? Not sure I'd think of Neil Boland's death as murder...
Phil Spector, lionized producer of 1960s pop and convicted murderer, dies
Weeks before Clarkson’s death, Mr. Spector sat for an interview with British journalist Mick Brown for the biography “Tearing Down the Wall of Sound,” published in 2007. Asked about rumors of his alcohol abuse and paranoia, Mr. Spector said he had not been well for years.
“I was crippled inside,” he said. “Insane is a hard word. . . . I take medication for schizophrenia, but I wouldn’t say I’m schizophrenic. But I have a bipolar personality, which is strange. I have devils inside that fight me. And I’m my own worst enemy.”
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Weeks before Clarkson’s death, Mr. Spector sat for an interview with British journalist Mick Brown for the biography “Tearing Down the Wall of Sound,” published in 2007. Asked about rumors of his alcohol abuse and paranoia, Mr. Spector said he had not been well for years.
“I was crippled inside,” he said. “Insane is a hard word. . . . I take medication for schizophrenia, but I wouldn’t say I’m schizophrenic. But I have a bipolar personality, which is strange. I have devils inside that fight me. And I’m my own worst enemy.”
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Drunken vehicular manslaughter, by his own admission. Supposedly haunted him to the end of his days.
I've never heard of it before, this is what I found, sound true to you? It looks like the judge threw th charges out.
The Tragic Truth Of Keith Moon's Car Accident
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