Please Tell Me This Is a Joke....

[RandomBox]

So it's the people who are told their music sucks (or is ridiculous, as you put it) that are in the wrong for standing up for what they like. Hmm.

I do agree with you, though, that telling people their music and/or their taste in music sucks is childish behavior.

I didn't say it sucks. I just said ridiculous. To me, ridiculous isn't quite a negative term. Let me rephrase that: It's different in a way that many would not appreciate. I didn't say its bad to like them, I said that their music is just a bit odd.

And he wasn't standing up for it, he was using information about me in order to be extremely rude.

 

[Bloodhammer]

Would you say that the OP's public ridicule of a band he doesn't like is also rude?

 

[RandomBox]

Would you say that the OP's public mockery of what he doesn't like is also rude? I'm talking about the advertising of his negative opinion via a web forum - not that he has that opinion.

I'd say the OP has the right to an opinion. Just like it was in my opinion that the band is slightly ridiculous. But the person who replied to me did not simple say "I disagree", they went out of their way to mock me. Yes it was a bit rude of the OP, I'll admit, to publicly mock it, but that's what a lot of talkbass members do. But to go as far as using personal attacks against someone is just very unnecessary. wouldn't you agree?

Plus, based on the poll options, it seems it may have been a satirical thread anyway.


Edit: As a not to the person who original replied to me (rudely), Mark was listed as an inspiration, not an influence. two very seperate concepts.

 

[Bloodhammer]

I'll let I am Soma speak for himself, but all he actually said was that he can see why you think Sunn0))) is ridiculous.

I think it's ridiculous to not expect blowback when trolling. If I started a thread called "Tell me this is a joke" about any music, I'd assume that fans would pile on me for it. That's also something that happens on TB all the time.

 

[RandomBox]

I'll let I am Soma speak for himself, but all he actually said was that he can see why you think Sunn0))) is ridiculous.

I think it's ridiculous to not expect blowback when trolling. If I started a thread called "Tell me this is a joke" about any music, I'd assume that fans would pile on me for it. That's also something that happens on TB all the time.

He stated that I would think they're ridiculous based solely on the fact that Mark Hoppus is one of my inspirations, and stated it in a very condescending way. I don't think it's ridiculous compared to my music tastes, I think it's ridiculous because I listened to it and made a decision based upon observation.

 

[Bloodhammer]

Once again, I'll let I am Soma speak for himself.

I do find it interesting that someone being condescending to you about your music inspirations would irk you.

 

[RandomBox]

Once again, I'll let I am Soma speak for himself.

I do find it interesting that someone being condescending to you about your music inspirations would irk you.

Usually it isn't, but when they go out of their way to be rude about it, it's extremely annoying. And them talking down at you (which it seems you're doing as well) just adds insult to injury.

 

[Bloodhammer]

I'm not being condescending. I'm trying to explain how trolling only brings bad results. It's not my fault if some of your posts are ironic.

 

[RandomBox]

I'm not being condescending. I'm trying to explain how trolling only brings bad results. It's not my fault if some of your posts are ironic.

There's no irony intended. I agree that its rude to mock a band such as the OP, but I think that the person who replied to me did so in a very unnecessary way. Even if the OP and the person replying was 'trolling', it was still unecessary.

 

[Spectrum]

This thread was going in a good direction what with the Lovecraft and drone recommendations, but it seems to have become just another dumb internet argument...

I guess we need a Lovecraft thread....

 

[ShredderMaximus]

This thread needs some Morbid Angel.

Now doesn't that feel better? Lovecraft and metal, a match made in heaven.

 

[Bloodhammer]

Much better. Some Nile wouldn't hurt either.

Sorry, I'm too lazy right now to post a link on my phone.

 

[somegeezer]

I guess we need a Lovecraft thread....

There's probably already one somewhere. But I'd not say no to that.

 

[totallyfrozen]

...Guess if it needs explaining it's not for us...

Nah, I don't agree with that. There's a lot of things in life (including art) that need to be revealed to new eyes and ears. The argument "if you don't get it already automatically, it's not for you" would prevent us from moving past racism, learning about religions, exploring science, etc.


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[Gluvhand]

Nah, I don't agree with that. There's a lot of things in life (including art) that need to be revealed to new eyes and ears. The argument "if you don't get it already automatically, it's not for you" would prevent us from moving past racism, learning about religions, exploring science, etc.


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I get what you're saying and I agree. But, sorry to say, I just don't like it. I get it. I just don't like it. I wouldn't slam it or criticize fans though. It obviously moves some people and that's good enough for me.

 

[I am Soma]

Me pointing out you have a mall punk member listed on your profile is a personal attack? Actually made me giggle. Weren't you the same person who was needlessly trolling the atheist thread? Sorry if you're offended and let me know if you need a virtual hug. I'll be right here enjoying the genius of sunno)))

 

[Schizoid75]

Somebody help me out. I had never heard of Sunn before, but I dig it. I like ambient music and I love the theatricality of the robes and fog. But I'm puzzled. I could just try and find this info online, but does anybody know the answers to the following:

1) Do they actually reproduce "songs" from their albums live? Would a big fan be able to tell which track they were playing? For example, in more mainstream music, you hear a certain melody or beat and you recognize it as a certain song. Anyone who knows the right melody and rhythm can then play it and reproduce it. Do they perform like that live, or is more like an improvisation each time? Major differences from performance to performance? Minor differences?

2) Do they have parts that require them to coordinate with each other? If so, how do they pull it off. It seems it would be hard to visually cue off each other with robes and heavy fog. There's no audible rhythm to keep track of and even if there is a tempo there, it's so slow that it would easy to lose it. Do they have a click or something in their ears or does the music not require them to play "together" in the traditional sense?

 

[dannster]

Let's put it in terms that are easily understood.

 

[ShredderMaximus]

Let's put it in terms that are easily understood.

I REALLY want to see this band live now. Sounds more like an experience than a typical show.

 

[Korladis]

Nonsense.

Not really. You're bashing someone else's music because it's not something you like. That's totally unnecessary, and when you do it, you should expect to get your own taste bashed in retaliation.

Starting a thread for the purpose of bashing a particular band is trolling. A thread about "not getting Eric Clapton" at least allows for the fact that many people do, whereas saying a band is a joke and "not music" as if that's an objective fact is being a giant bloated douchebag.

It's not the opinion that's offensive, it's the "hey look at me I think Sunn0))) is a big joke," way of expressing that opinion by starting a thread about it. And here you are typing your agreement with the OP. If you are such an out-of-the-box type of guy that "doesn't think in genres [sic]", why bash on what other people like and then pretend like you don't understand why they might take offense? That's not very open minded, if you ask me. Even if you aren't the one who started the thread.

Yep.

I don't care that people don't like Sunn O))). That's fine, everyone likes different things.

What's not really cool is going and saying something "isn't music" just because you don't like it. And of course people are going to get irritated by that kind of crap.

They make 'music' in the same sense that a wind chime makes 'music.' Would be a trip live with jet mechanic earmuffs.

Usually it isn't, but when they go out of their way to be rude about it, it's extremely annoying. And them talking down at you (which it seems you're doing as well) just adds insult to injury.

Exactly. You can like whatever you want, but there's no reason to be condescending to others just because you don't like their music.

Nah, I don't agree with that. There's a lot of things in life (including art) that need to be revealed to new eyes and ears. The argument "if you don't get it already automatically, it's not for you" would prevent us from moving past racism, learning about religions, exploring science, etc.


Sent from my iPhone 5c locked in my cod piece using the TalkBass mobile app with my 11th finger while scaling the cliffs of Mordor. (stay thirsty, my friends)

Sometimes. But someone has to earnestly want to learn about something and understand it for an explanation to be useful. I don't think that's the case with the OP.

Somebody help me out. I had never heard of Sunn before, but I dig it. I like ambient music and I love the theatricality of the robes and fog. But I'm puzzled. I could just try and find this info online, but does anybody know the answers to the following:

1) Do they actually reproduce "songs" from their albums live? Would a big fan be able to tell which track they were playing? For example, in more mainstream music, you hear a certain melody or beat and you recognize it as a certain song. Anyone who knows the right melody and rhythm can then play it and reproduce it. Do they perform like that live, or is more like an improvisation each time? Major differences from performance to performance? Minor differences?

2) Do they have parts that require them to coordinate with each other? If so, how do they pull it off. It seems it would be hard to visually cue off each other with robes and heavy fog. There's no audible rhythm to keep track of and even if there is a tempo there, it's so slow that it would easy to lose it. Do they have a click or something in their ears or does the music not require them to play "together" in the traditional sense?

I've never seen them live. But I imagine that this song would be somewhat easy to recognize.

They play as a four-piece live, I believe. Two, sometimes three guitars, sometimes bass, plus vocals.