Pondering Some New Ideas, Need Some Input

[Bassi5t]

I use a Fender Super Bassman into a matching Bassman 410 or 115 (can’t decide which I like better). And my little one is an Ashdown Little B@stard… 30 watts all tube… just got it a couple weeks ago but I freaking love it!

 

[Nebadon2000]

Tube preamp
Damping control
HPF
All analog (none of this programmable/modeling crap)
I love the fender tone stack but it’s not necessary
At least one sweepable mid control (if not using FTS)
2 ohm capable (pretty standard for Mesa now)
Soft clip output section
One channel
No graphic EQ
$1k or less

Sounds like 800 channel on TT 800 with Damping Control; interesting since thread started with consideration of separate Boogie 400 amp from TT

Also maybe WD 800 with 800+ EQ[all sans tone stack marked unnecessary]

With WD Passive mid could implement Fender Tone Stack [not knowledgeable on how to incorporate mid sweep with Fender Tone stack]

 

[ImTheOnlyOne]

This is about a Mesa branded product. Products meet price points. Mesa, the brand, may represent stand-out tone, quality engineered build, pro-level reliability, and heritage.
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[Use your best Rod Serling voice now ] Imagine a "smart" stage amp that sensed the room (think room correction on a hi-fi) using ultrasonics, EQ-ing itself, in accord with its volume setting and cab compliment, to a savable/sharable profile.

Woah, that's wild. I thought I was spouting science fiction...

 

[moreblues]

I have been following this thread and I was just wondering Andy, is there anything new in the works either amps or cabinets? Regards,Rich

 

[agedhorse]

I have been following this thread and I was just wondering Andy, is there anything new in the works either amps or cabinets? Regards,Rich

Yes. There’s always something(s) in the works.

 

[PhatBottomBass1]

I've been pondering so much recently with signal chain, interoperability, cost/benefit and best performance. I feel like I'm working on how to get Apollo 13 breathable oxygen on severely limited power constraints, within a given area while keeping my head from exploding

 

[moreblues]

Lol, what I meant to say was …is there anything new that is going to be released in the near future ? As in this year or early next year?

 

[Hoochie Coochie Man]

I suggest that a future Mesa bass amp include a second master volume control that controls the volume of all guitar amplifiers on the same stage.

 

[Square]

I recently bought a new head. While shopping I couldn’t try anything on my list locally.

My short list included three makers, GK, Mesa, and Darkglass. The two serious contenders were GK and Mesa. The quality of the OD available was important to me. All other things being roughly equal, I chose the GK. I just couldn’t find any quality online examples of what I could expect from Mesa.

That said, the other items that were important to me in a sub $1500 head were: aux in, headphone out ( level controls would be nice here), 2 ohm stability, wide range mid tweak ability, pre/post di, tuner out, and most of all simplicity within reason.

The things I really like on the Mesa were hpf control and the usb port. The controllable dampening was also intriguing. If I had just been able to get a better feel for what the mesa products had in the way of OD, I may have chosen differently. I even posed the question here on TB with no response.

None of this really, directly, applies to the original question. It does however give a glimpse into the head of one shopper.

Given that I’m still somewhat looking at a backup head in the sub $1500 range I’ll be watching closely what Mesa brings to the table.

 

[agedhorse]

Lol, what I meant to say was …is there anything new that is going to be released in the near future ? As in this year or early next year?

Well maybe... maybe not... possibly I suppose but it depends.

I recently bought a new head. While shopping I couldn’t try anything on my list locally.

My short list included three makers, GK, Mesa, and Darkglass. The two serious contenders were GK and Mesa. The quality of the OD available was important to me. All other things being roughly equal, I chose the GK. I just couldn’t find any quality online examples of what I could expect from Mesa.

That said, the other items that were important to me in a sub $1500 head were: aux in, headphone out ( level controls would be nice here), 2 ohm stability, wide range mid tweak ability, pre/post di, tuner out, and most of all simplicity within reason.

The things I really like on the Mesa were hpf control and the usb port. The controllable dampening was also intriguing. If I had just been able to get a better feel for what the mesa products had in the way of OD, I may have chosen differently. I even posed the question here on TB with no response.

None of this really, directly, applies to the original question. It does however give a glimpse into the head of one shopper.

Given that I’m still somewhat looking at a backup head in the sub $1500 range I’ll be watching closely what Mesa brings to the table.

This is a good comment, we have discussed the various approaches to overdrive of the Subway line in all of the various threads and many players have shared their experiences. The more obvious candidates are the WD and TT which were designed specifically with overdrive in mind, but all of the D series can also be overdriven and this is discussed in the various owner's manuals.

Videos are really a very wide spread of music styles, but I know I have shared a number of videos of these amps being used with pretty aggressive music using the onboard overdriven tones.

 

[MuseChaser]

I admit I have not read this entire thread, and I may not exactly be the "target audience" as a primarily acoustic jazz player, but a question/idea/request if I may....

I have two Genzler products and absolutely love them (Acoustic Array Pro and Magellan 350/BA10-2-S2 combo). The parametric mid (sweepable frequency center and boost/cut) I find extremely valuable, but I wish it also had a variable Q on that filter. Perhaps the inclusion of the contour control (with two shapes on the Magellan) used in conjunction with the sweepable mid was meant to provide the flexibility most folks would want, but the contour control to my ears is too much of a "sledgehammer" adjustment. Some rooms I play would be benefit from a really surgical high Q slope at a specific midrange frequency, while others are more accepting of gentle, wider-spectrum adjustments.

Thoughts?

 

[Square]

Well maybe... maybe not... possibly I suppose but it depends.
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This is a good comment, we have discussed the various approaches to overdrive of the Subway line in all of the various threads and many players have shared their experiences. The more obvious candidates are the WD and TT which were designed specifically with overdrive in mind, but all of the D series can also be overdriven and this is discussed in the various owner's manuals.

Videos are really a very wide spread of music styles, but I know I have shared a number of videos of these amps being used with pretty aggressive music using the onboard overdriven tones.

Your involvement in this community is what first brought Mesa to the top of my mind.

I would still be interested in those videos. Feel free to PM me if you find that more appropriate.

Thank you for your response.

 

[anderbass]

Would it be feasible to build a tall/narrow 4x10 cab, so tall guys like me could hear themselves much better without resorting to playing too loud on small tight stages where you have to stand just a couple inches in front of yer cab? ~ I'm thinking like a 4-feet tall/14" or 16"-wide mini-fridge with the tilt-back roller wheel feature and whatever depth dimension needed to sound awesome. ~ Is anyone else already building a bass cab like this?

 

[Bassi5t]

Would it be feasible to build a tall/narrow 4x10 cab, so tall guys like me could hear themselves much better without resorting to playing too loud on small tight stages where you have to stand just a couple inches in front of yer cab? ~ I'm thinking like a 4-feet tall/14"-wide mini-fridge with the tilt-back roller wheel feature and whatever depth dimension needed to sound awesome. ~ Is anyone else already building a bass cab like this?

I’d suggest 2 of the Subway 212 cabs. Definitely my fave Subway cab and 2 would be more than enough for most. YMMV

 

[abarson]

Would it be feasible to build a tall/narrow 4x10 cab, so tall guys like me could hear themselves much better without resorting to playing too loud on small tight stages where you have to stand just a couple inches in front of yer cab? ~ I'm thinking like a 4-feet tall/14"-wide mini-fridge with the tilt-back roller wheel feature and whatever depth dimension needed to sound awesome. ~ Is anyone else already building a bass cab like this?

Not to hijack, but Revsound does a vertical 410. No experience with it.

RS410V/RS410VT | RevSound

https://fb.watch/dHi4G9hpv6/The new RS410VT was released in March of 2015 after the strong performance demonstrated by it's "big brother" the RS810T. It has performed wonderfully in venues small to large. Ease of transport, small footprint, huge power handling and strong voice make it a...

www.revsound.net

 

[gtirard]

Would it be feasible to build a tall/narrow 4x10 cab, so tall guys like me could hear themselves much better without resorting to playing too loud on small tight stages where you have to stand just a couple inches in front of yer cab? ~ I'm thinking like a 4-feet tall/14" or 16"-wide mini-fridge with the tilt-back roller wheel feature and whatever depth dimension needed to sound awesome. ~ Is anyone else already building a bass cab like this?

I know a few vertical 3x10 but I don't think there's any vertical 4x10.

I suppose a vertical 3x10 is enough to hear yourself well though.

 

[_Some Dude]

I've wanted a 410 with a diagonal offset. Like two SW 210s stacked on each other, only it's one single cab that has wheels.

I also get why this is unlikely as they already produce a SW410, but one can hope.

 

[agedhorse]

Your involvement in this community is what first brought Mesa to the top of my mind.

I would still be interested in those videos. Feel free to PM me if you find that more appropriate.

Thank you for your response.

Someone more skilled at searching might be able to help.

 

[anderbass]

Not to hijack, but Revsound does a vertical 410. No experience with it.

RS410V/RS410VT | RevSound

https://fb.watch/dHi4G9hpv6/The new RS410VT was released in March of 2015 after the strong performance demonstrated by it's "big brother" the RS810T. It has performed wonderfully in venues small to large. Ease of transport, small footprint, huge power handling and strong voice make it a...

www.revsound.net

Cool thanks man, I'll keep that one in mind but I've been so dam impressed with my WD800/Subway 215 pairing that I'm gonna wait awhile and see if Mesa decides to build a horizontal 410 or not.

 

[agedhorse]

Cool thanks man, I'll keep that one in mind but I've been so dam impressed with my WD800/Subway 215 pairing that I'm gonna wait awhile and see if Mesa decides to build a horizontal 410 or not.

Unlikely to build a HORIZONTAL 410, that would end up being more of a low park bench format