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Poor Fieldy :(

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#61
Originally posted by bass goddess
hey Les, don't you know all idols are empty? they preach and preach but their morals only run as deep as the surface. idols are created so we can sss up and say it's okay we'll never be as good as Mingus. but what do i know. i only think too much, it's a curse you know, to know how this place really is.
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yeah i know!
but this idol is waaaaay empty....and waaaaay FAT!

and i think i think too much too! ;)
 
#62
Okay, I'm back. I "obtained" one song by Korn, "Are You Ready", and I am now prepared to comment (based on that 1 song). I have to qualify my opinion by stating that it comes from a jazz-cat, Jaco loving, fancy fingering, totally biased individual. Ready.....
I like it! :eek: It wasn't bad at all. It wasn't my cup of tea, mind you, but I really didn't hear any really bad bass playing in that song. I didn't hear anything fancy either, but the bass worked for that song. I've read on a couple of threads about a "clickity clackity" sound, but I didn't hear it in that song (well, maybe just a pinch but I'm not sure it wasn't the drums. I have to admit, I was expecting something really bad. Maybe I need to listen to some more of their songs.
 
#64
Originally posted by Angus
"Got The Life" by Korn gives a good example of his tone "solo'ed" about 30 seconds into the song.
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Nope. Don't hear the problem (in the context of the song). Maybe it's my hearing. Are you referring to the part right about where the vocals come in? Sounds to me like it works for the kind of music they play. His tone sounds quite 'full' through the verses, and then changes to the 'clickity' sound. I guess it works for him. He doesn't seem to have bucket-loads of talent (if you define talent as running 16th notes up and down the fingerboard for the duration of the song), but I haven't found enough reason to bash the guy (based on the 2 songs I listened to). He's alright. I mean, you may not like the music, and he's not Mr. Technique, but he's got a gig and he makes more money than you and I combined, and, in real life, that counts too.
 
#65
nahh... I don't really dislike metal, but as a whole it's not as hard as a lot of the other genres of music. I was in 2 or 3 metal bands already. I don't personally find it the best kind of music, but jamming and listening to a cd are different, I can jamm to metal, but not really enjoy it on a cd.
 
#68
I agree with XavierG.
If you set aside personal musical tastes , you can admit that FIeldy plays what's right for Korn.
He's not the best bass player in the world.
He's not the worst bass player in the world.
You may hate/love it (the band) and/or him (Fieldy), but it's getting really borring to read this pro/con Fieldy threads.
 
#71
It's not a matter of playing out of key. You can jive with the guitars and still technically be "ok key" you don't HAVE to be playing a low b when they're playing theirs. Ever heard ska? Ska bases itself on both people using the same scale, but being in different spots at the same time.

One last thing, you obviously haven't been doing very good at playing music if you've had to have the guitarist tell you which fret to play and which string.
 
#73
well ive been playing for lamost 6months, and it always really annoyed me when i saw
people goign to music lessiongs and hating it or being bored, i only learned when i svaed up enough money to buy bass msyself. i dont have teacher. i ve ahd a few bands and i think that it would only be respectfull to the instrument if everyone got what they could out of their bass. playing the same string over and over again isnt egtting the most out of your bass.

i try to use as much of my bass as i can when i play
 
#74
Originally posted by CrawlingEye
The key to metal is playing fast, if you can do that? Regardless of if you're in tune or anything with the rest of the band, it'll sound fine.
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Originally posted by CrawlingEye
It's not a matter of playing out of key. You can jive with the guitars and still technically be "ok key" you don't HAVE to be playing a low b when they're playing theirs. Ever heard ska? Ska bases itself on both people using the same scale, but being in different spots at the same time.
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CE

You may want to be more careful in how you word things. Your first quote says you don't need to play in tune with the rest of the band and you'll sound fine. Your second quote sounds a little like a retraction on the first qoute. Yet to me, if your not playing 'in tune' your certainly not playing 'in key'. ;)
 
#75
Well we certainly have learned a lot today haven't we kiddies? I actually started this thread, not to defend Fieldy, but in order to say he's not the worst bassist in the world and shouldn't get as much crap as he does. But now it's really made me think about bass players in general. A bass player has to fit the style of music. A good example of this is Flea, when RHCP songs are funky, flea is going nuts. But if he's playing something like I could have Lied, he's not doing too much, but it's still cool because it fits the music. So I will try not to make snap decisions about bassist without further research. Because as bassist we are all united under really large frets and fat strings... or something.
 
#76
Originally posted by Bassin'




CE

You may want to be more careful in how you word things. Your first quote says you don't need to play in tune with the rest of the band and you'll sound fine. Your second quote sounds a little like a retraction on the first qoute. Yet to me, if your not playing 'in tune' your certainly not playing 'in key'. ;)
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No, I said that I've jammed with metal bands and I didn't go in drop d. Anyone who think's that's all bad isn't all there. An open low D is just one d. there's many more on your neck, for example, your second string in standard tuning is a d also.
 
#77
Originally posted by CrawlingEye


No, I said that I've jammed with metal bands and I didn't go in drop d. Anyone who think's that's all bad isn't all there. An open low D is just one d. there's many more on your neck, for example, your second string in standard tuning is a d also.
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I understand that a bass player doesn't necessarily need to play in a drop D tuning if the guitars do. My point of contention is you saying in order to play metal all you need to do is play fast, <b>"regardless of if your playing in tune or anything with the rest of the band, you'll sound fine."</b>

Now, if the purpose of this statement was to say you don't necessarily have to play the same note or octave, as long as you are <b>in tune</b>, then I must say your choice of wording is terrible.

When you say "regardless of if your playing in tune," that leads me to believe that if I was playing in a metal band, I wouldn't need to tune my instrument, I wouldn't need to know what the guitar player was doing, I wouldn't need to know what note I'm playing...because playing in tune is optional. What isn't an option, according to you, is the <b>amount</b> of notes I play because <b>"the key to metal is playing fast".</b>

If this was the point your trying to convey then your latter posts confused me because you were talking about playing different notes in the same key. That would be the same as playing <b>in key</b>, which to me would be the same thing as playing <b>in tune</b> which according to your earlier post was optional.

Maybe I'm just terminally confused, but for us of the slower mentality, you may want to choose your words more carefully. ;)
 
#78
for the record, i do own 3 korn albums and i do like LAPD. LAPD does show fieldy's normal bass side to him. so he does have some talent, i guess nowadays he refuses to show it. i rarely listen to my korn albums anymore, and whenever i see them on tv i almost always turn the channel. korn sounds too much the same now, and "issues" is the worst cd i own, i could sell it for 5 dollars and still be ripping someone off. some of their older stuff is pretty cool though. their new stuff totally sucks, IMO.

and ive seen AC/DC in concert and Cliff Williams is awesome at bass.
 
#79
I was reading an artical or something of that nature that was an interview with him. In this interview feildy said that he only plays his bass when he has to. He also said that when he is bored at home that would be the last thing he would do (playing his bass). So stop bashing him. There is nothing wrong with his style. We all have our own style, or we should, and beating his bass down is his. Anyway because of his bass, and other reasons, korn doesnt sound like any other bands out there.
 
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