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Poor Fieldy :(

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Actually, now im coming back to hear what C-Eye has to say. I saw we take the discussion over to the DB side! ;)

For the record, playing an E over a D isn't going to sound good...at all. Dissonant yes, but a major 2 played over and over isn't far enough that it will sound like you know what you are doing, and it is close enough to make you sound like you just don't quite know where the note you are supposed to play actually is.

BTW, Ska songs don't usually have "keys". The bassist simply plays over the chords the guitar player is playing. That's not playing within a key.
 
#82
i think that some of you guys need to stop listening to the bass in songs. do you only listen to the music you listen to just because the bass player is good? if you do your missing out on so much. i started to do this when i first started playing, then i realized that im missing the whole point of music. its the way everything comes together to make a good song. enough of my pointless rambling.
 
#83
Originally posted by Angus
For the record, playing an E over a D isn't going to sound good...at all. Dissonant yes, but a major 2 played over and over isn't far enough that it will sound like you know what you are doing, and it is close enough to make you sound like you just don't quite know where the note you are supposed to play actually is.
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While I agree that in most cases playing an E over a D isn't going to sound good, I disagree when you say "at all." Dissonence can be your friend and it can be your enemy:D. Earlier in this thread I laid out an example of how Cliff Williams uses a 'tension and release' technique in which the guitars go from an A to a G yet he sticks to the A which in turn creates tension. It isn't until the turnaround on the chorus that he goes to the G with the guitars and creates the release. This technique could also work if both the bass and guitars are sitting on an E and then the guitars go to a D while the bass stays at E. Oviously, it would be only in particular situations where an E on the bass over a D chord would work, but occasionaly particular situations do come up. :D
 
#84
Sorry, i guess i shouldnt've said "at all"! I know what you mean, which is why i mentioned in my post it's dissonant. But im also fairly sure that C-Eye doesn't know what they is, and just plays an E over a D for no reason. I was mainly aimed at constantly playing the E over D throughout an entire song, not just for a turnaround or tension.

Good point though! I just over emphasized a tad! :D
 
#85
Originally posted by Angus
Sorry, i guess i shouldnt've said "at all"! I know what you mean, which is why i mentioned in my post it's dissonant. But im also fairly sure that C-Eye doesn't know what they is, and just plays an E over a D for no reason. I was mainly aimed at constantly playing the E over D throughout an entire song, not just for a turnaround or tension.

Good point though! I just over emphasized a tad! :D
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No, you just don't know what I'm saying.
I told you you can play on the low e and it'll sound just fine. 10th fret on the low E I believe it is. If you move around more, it sounds much better. Notice in metal, you can actually make it melodic. The guitars usually have their lows turned up a lot, so you can play high and there won't be much of a loss of volume to the song.

Now if you only knew what melody was...
Perhaps you should figure out what ska is now.

Listen to an actual ska song. Not RBF or some other ******** **** like that. Listen to like Operation Ivy, Choking Victim, or Catch 22.

You'll regret saying what you did about ska.
You must not know too much about bass if you think your open strings are your only notes. There's plenty of other D's on the neck than the open, if you don't tune to drop d. Perhaps that's what makes things interesting?


That's what makes the genre of ska. Perhaps you should actually pay attention.
 
#86
Uh, what? Where are you getting ANY of this?

Does anyone know where this "retorts" come from? I gotta say C-Eye, that about 90% of your responses are full of totally irrelevant, out of nowhere, never-entered-the-conversation things. This being one of them.

Ska is not the king genre of music. Why listen to ska when i can listen to something with depth and substance like jazz? Ska can't even begin to touch real jazz. And no, i've never even HEARD of melody OR harmony. But i should listen to ska to hear what they really are, right? mmmhhhmmm. What, what was i thinking, jazz is boring! Go 3-chord progresson ska! :rolleyes:

Quit it with the "you must not know much about bass because..." with so many people. Every single person i've ever heard you say that to has said nothing to show ignorance about it, while i can conjure up a multitude of threads to show your inexperience about bass. Inexperience isn't a bad thing by any means, we all went through it. But its not something to call upon someone for no reason when you yourself "suffer" from it. Absolutely nobody here will think more highly of you by making comments of this sort. Only the opposite. You're only 15, you don't know everything. Nobody does at any age. So don't act like it, eh? Im 14, and i dont know everything... or anywhere near it! But i do know that im much more experienced than you, based on what i know from the posts you've made. Does this make me think lesser of you? No. Could i be wrong? Absolutely. So why bother attempting to insult someone based on your assumption of their inexperience? It doesn't further the conversation in any way, and only dilutes the message you were trying to make. Make sense?
 
#87
Actually, now it makes sense that you're only 14. A lot of the stuff you've said are very immature and petty. For instance, you don't know where this came about at? this is the way this thread went..

Korn>Metal>Metal bass styles> how I approach it

Now Angus, once you get in 9th grade, you can start to sound intelligent. But before then, really don't try to flame anyone.

I'll give you this, you have balls for being 14. But you try too hard, and it just makes you hebetudinous.

Now your comments on jazz are simply deplorable and idiotic. You try to make stolid to the point posts, but it doesn't really work very well.

Perhaps you should review what I've said rather than complaining that you "don't understand"

Void of your ego, I'm sure you're a good kid. But don't think that jazz is superior to ska really. Ska has a lot more melody than jazz. (sorry to the jazz people)

Grant it, jazz may be harder in some cases. But Ska is meant to be catchy and sound good.

I'm not aware of what ska you've heard, Angus. But I can tell you one thing, it's obviously not anything more than rbf.

If you keep attempting to flame me, I will click the little "report this post to a moderator" button.

;)
 
#89
Damn Yawnsie, you beat me to it!

LOL to your comments on Ska/Jazz! Seriously, that was a good joke.

BTW, sometimes overusing the thesaurus isn't a good thing.

But, go ahead and report me to the moderator! ;) After all, im just starting to be allowed to "be smart", right? I suppose it would be bad to say "when're they going to allow you?" :D
 
#95
Originally posted by rubber chicken



what the @#$% is hebetudinous?
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Look it up; It means dullness of the mind.

As in, not very creative.

Angus, a large vocab won't speak loud when it comes down to playing. You could know every single scale, and someone who plays by ear could crush you. You try to break things down technically. When that's not really something that can be done with a instrument.

Your comments on the ska thing are just bluntly stupid. I as a bassist like the Jaco slang solo. But it's not a desirable sound he's getting out of his bass. I doubt many people other than bassists would want to hear it.

Ska isn't at all doing what the guitarist is doing, list the ska you've heard.
 
#96
This shouldnt dignify a response, but...

I didn't say bassists played with the guitarists in ska. I know they don't.

I didn't break anything down technically. However, that is something that SHOULD be done, to some extent. And who brought playing by ear into this? Who said i couldn't? I think its funny how something unrelated could come up in the conversation (originally about Fieldy...:rolleyes: ) that all the sudden judges me! Funny how it only happens with you too!

Jaco...bad tone? HA! He has probably the most imitated fretless tone ever! Then again, Jaco is a terrible player. :rolleyes:

Lalalala...
 
#97
not my kind of music in the least. [/B][/QUOTE]

Its not your kind of music!? of course it isnt! If you thin, what is anybodys kind of music? everyone bashes all these different kinds of music when they dont realize they are all brothers and cousins to eachother. They all come from the same roots(for the most part([except tool, i dont where their style came from, but i like it!])) Anyways, no one really has a kind of music because its not yours! If fieldy sucks, why does he have so many fans? Instead of bashing musicians who you think suck, just ignore them. If they are so bad, then everyone else will as well.
 
#98
Originally posted by TheFrizzleFry



Awww.. well I tried... :(

I was actually starting this thread with the message of, Can't well all just get along?
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Im still your buddy! I just dont understand mentioning any band or musician unless you are using them for reference or to show examples of sounds and styles. You started an ok thread, it just turned ugly as many do when you mention a band or musician name.
 
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