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Rant - crazy mom

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Marley's Ghost said:
Ok, I am going to say this one more time.

Get counseling. Tell you mom you want her to take you to a counselor. If she says no, go to the counselor at school. Selling your gear that you bought is not a *normal* way to deal with issues like these. It is psychological abuse. If you retaliate or just let it go, it will get worse. Trust me.

Honestly, this maybe the best advice yet, here's why.

1) This story has many of us parently types dismissing the reality of it completely, assuming that the kid in question is simply being an overeactive teen who's just trying to make her mom out to be a bad guy. After all, as a parent, we all have to do things to "get our kids attention" from time to time.

2) What if the mom really is mental & this kid is on the up & up. This might be the way to get everyone back to center.
 
McHack said:
Honestly, this maybe the best advice yet, here's why.

1) This story has many of us parently types dismissing the reality of it completely, assuming that the kid in question is simply being an overeactive teen who's just trying to make her mom out to be a bad guy. After all, as a parent, we all have to do things to "get our kids attention" from time to time.

2) What if the mom really is mental & this kid is on the up & up. This might be the way to get everyone back to center.

Agreed 100 percent. Alex seems like a decent kid with a bright future. All I was saying (and the others I think), is that you can't have every detail of a story based on a two paragraph post. There is ALWAYS more to the story, on both sides. Alex certainly got a raw deal, and my sarcastic comments were really meant for some of the other Einsteins who are posting encouraging filing charges, etc.
 
Alex said:
Alright I got the info through my dad (who is calmer and more sane).

This is basically what he said the teacher told my mom: (this happened last week btw, she got the call today)

"We had a math test and Alex didn't bring a calculator (note: not really a big deal since it is geometry)In the middle of the test, a student got up to ask me a question, and Alex stole his calculator off his desk. the student came up to me and told me that his caculator had dissappeared. I let him borrow one of mine.

Near the end of class, Alex finished his test early. When he got back to his seat after turning in his test, he slid the calculator up to the kid that it belonged to. That's when I realized that he had stolen the calculator. I gave him a dean's referral and he got a 30 minute detention."

What actually happened:

I show up to class with a few minutes left in passing period. True, I forgot my calculator. My friend Andrew is sharpening his pencil, and left his calculator on his desk. I grab it off his desk to see if he would notice if it was gone (common practice, am I right?) He looks around and decides that he lost it. Before I can stop him, he goes up to the teacher and asks to borrow one of his calculators. The teacher lends him one. I think to myself, "well, too late now. I'll give it back to him later. And hey, look at that, a calculator for the test. w00t."

I finish the test early and slide the calculator on the floor up to him (he sits about 2 seats in front of me on the left) he looks down and sees it, then looks at me. I wink at him and he give me a :rollno: "ya got me" face. The slide on the floor is kinda loud, so the teacher looks up from the desk and sees the calculator on the floor. He calls me up to his desk and says "did you take Andrew's calculator?" and I'm like "well..." He then writes me a dean's referral (:confused: this is where him hating me comes in). I go down to the deans office, and he gives me the minimum requirement for getting a referral - a 30 minute detention.

THAT'S IT!

I swear to god I am not lying. I cannot believe what is happening.

Oh and btw I didn't know that she was selling it when I brought it out into the car.

Sounds exactly like my son's German teacher. She goes over the top about little things. Even the principal has to ask everyone in the class and investigate every time she says something about my boy, because he has found that she goes overboard because she doesn't like my kid.

Anyway...this is one of those stupid b.s. things that happens. But, IMO, it isn't worth taking your gear over.

But I'll tell you what I've told my son: If you don't have something you need, ask the *teacher* first, not a friend. That way, you stay out of trouble.

Do your parents disapprove of your playing?

Cherie
 
I haven't read the entire thread, but I just wanted to throw something out there that no one else would have said:

If your mom is "insane," it is likely that you may also be "insane" to some extent. Genetic inheritance tends to do that. I've known a lot of people who complained about their legitimately crazy parents, only to later find out that those complainers had some of the same crazy traits as the parents. You may not even be expressing your mother's "crazy" traits until you grow up and have kids, so make sure that you don't do the same things she does.

My grandfather was raised in a very strict environment, causing him to resent his father. However, he later got over it. The same thing happened to my father and my self. A lot of these parenting habits are passed on, either by genetics or environment, however you want to think of it. Even the kids who hated how they were raised will oftentimes commit the same "evils" that their parents did. It's just something you might want to keep in mind for future reference.
 
Ericman197 said:
I haven't read the entire thread, but I just wanted to throw something out there that no one else would have said:

If your mom is "insane," it is likely that you may also be "insane" to some extent. Genetic inheritance tends to do that. I've known a lot of people who complained about their legitimately crazy parents, only to later find out that those complainers had some of the same crazy traits as the parents. You may not even be expressing your mother's "crazy" traits until you grow up and have kids, so make sure that you don't do the same things she does.

My grandfather was raised in a very strict environment, causing him to resent his father. However, he later got over it. The same thing happened to my father and my self. A lot of these parenting habits are passed on, either by genetics or environment, however you want to think of it. Even the kids who hated how they were raised will oftentimes commit the same "evils" that their parents did. It's just something you might want to keep in mind for future reference.
I think she is going to go "Insane" if she finds out about this thread. If my daughter aired out our family business, asking for opinions from people who don't have a clue over the World Wide Web, it would do GREAT HARM to our relationship. You would have to call a family counselor. Or the cops one.
 
I sometimes have to take away something from one of my kids for discipline. They are 14 and 11. When they protest, saying "That's mine!" I just say "You and everything you 'own' are MINE!" Until they are 18, that's the way it will stay. Admittedly, I haven't sold any of their stuff. Yet.
 
Oh, man. Phase one temporarily aborted because of forgetfulness in fling of excitement. I discovered this awesome new geometry theoreum (my math teacher said he had never heard anything like this before :hyper: ).

Since I know that Geoff and the like will want to hear it, here it is (it's more of a series of theoreums resulting from one discovery)

The perimeter of any quadrilateral incribed in a circle is equal to twice the sum of two opposite sides.

I proved this using a "walk around" problem (2 tangent theoreum also). I can't really describe it with words, but it works. My Geo teacher verified that.

For example, if you have a quadrilateral with opposite sides 5 and 7, with the other sides unknown, you know that the perimeter is 24 --> 2(5+7)

This also applies to any convex quadrilateral because any convex quadrilateral can be inscribed in a circle.

From this you can also find a fourth side of a quadrilateral if you know only 3 sides. So if you have a quadrilateral with sides 3, 7, and 8, you automatically know that the remaining side is 4 because:

2(3+8) = 22
22 - (3+7+8) = 4!

:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

I'm so proud of myself.

Geoff, ever heard of anything like this, or is there a hole in my logic?

I'll PM if he doesn't find this.
 
AxtoOx said:
I think she is going to go "Insane" if she finds out about this thread. If my daughter aired out our family business, asking for opinions from people who don't have a clue over the World Wide Web, it would do GREAT HARM to our relationship. You would have to call a family counselor. Or the cops one.


But if you don't know where to go in the first place, what are you supposed to do? Suffer in silence?
 
i think if we were to pull alex's transcripts and maybe his juvi record there will probably be A LOT MORE TO THIS STORY. i dont know alex at all but i'm sure this is a culmination of all his little bungles. my dad used to tell me when i was your age, "open your ears and shut your mouth and you may learn something", you know he was right. quit being stupid and doing stupid things and this wont happen to you again. if you do buy more gear, store it and your bass over at your friends house. dont tell your parents that you have it and they cant sell it. your parents do sound a little off, your dad is a lawyer so that explains that, but your mom.....steer clear of her until you hit 18 and are out of the house. my parents were alchoholics so i understand the irrationality. they didnt accept what i did for a living until i got a platinum album out of the deal.
 
Alex said:
Oh, man. Phase one temporarily aborted because of forgetfulness in fling of excitement. I discovered this awesome new geometry theoreum (my math teacher said he had never heard anything like this before :hyper: ).

Since I know that Geoff and the like will want to hear it, here it is (it's more of a series of theoreums resulting from one discovery)

The perimeter of any quadrilateral incribed in a circle is equal to twice the sum of two opposite sides.

I proved this using a "walk around" problem (2 tangent theoreum also). I can't really describe it with words, but it works. My Geo teacher verified that.

For example, if you have a quadrilateral with opposite sides 5 and 7, with the other sides unknown, you know that the perimeter is 24 --> 2(5+7)

This also applies to any convex quadrilateral because any convex quadrilateral can be inscribed in a circle.

From this you can also find a fourth side of a quadrilateral if you know only 3 sides. So if you have a quadrilateral with sides 3, 7, and 8, you automatically know that the remaining side is 4 because:

2(3+8) = 22
22 - (3+7+8) = 4!

:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

I'm so proud of myself.

Geoff, ever heard of anything like this, or is there a hole in my logic?

I'll PM if he doesn't find this.

i'd have sold all of your stuff too if you are going to post filth like this you little devient!!!!!! :D do your parents know about this?!?!?
 
Alex said:
Oh, man. Phase one temporarily aborted because of forgetfulness in fling of excitement. I discovered this awesome new geometry theoreum (my math teacher said he had never heard anything like this before :hyper: ).

Since I know that Geoff and the like will want to hear it, here it is (it's more of a series of theoreums resulting from one discovery)

The perimeter of any quadrilateral incribed in a circle is equal to twice the sum of two opposite sides.

I proved this using a "walk around" problem (2 tangent theoreum also). I can't really describe it with words, but it works. My Geo teacher verified that.

For example, if you have a quadrilateral with opposite sides 5 and 7, with the other sides unknown, you know that the perimeter is 24 --> 2(5+7)

This also applies to any convex quadrilateral because any convex quadrilateral can be inscribed in a circle.

From this you can also find a fourth side of a quadrilateral if you know only 3 sides. So if you have a quadrilateral with sides 3, 7, and 8, you automatically know that the remaining side is 4 because:

2(3+8) = 22
22 - (3+7+8) = 4!

:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

I'm so proud of myself.

Geoff, ever heard of anything like this, or is there a hole in my logic?

I'll PM if he doesn't find this.

Don't get too excited. A quick Google reveals a textbook
published with Theorems on this topic. And likely
not the first:

Theorems in Motion: Using Dynamic Geometry to Gain Fresh Insights,Daniel P. Scher. Construction of a constant-perimeter rectangle; a constant area rectangle.
(889, 1996) 330 - 332

The math site Invalid Link Removed
did not note the publisher.

Sorry to burst your balloon, but it was clever of you to
discover it independently.

Also Here:
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Scroll down to the section on Cyclical Quadrilaterals
and Cyclic Inscriptable.

Note a+c = b+d.

Also, additional formulas for bicentric quadrilaterals and some intersting
discussion is here
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/BicentricQuadrilateral.html
 
Ah youth.

Why do you (or anybody else reading this thread) think teachers hate you? It's not cause your eyes are green that's for sure. Teachers are regular adults, though admitedly some are a little more annoying than others. However, they don't just hate people for no reason. I had a huge chip on my shoulder when I was younger. Problems with authority etc. etc. etc. Forever in the principals/teachers/coach's office. I couldn't figure out why some adults or teachers seemed to hate me. Then I realized why they did, and it was totally my fault. All of it. They weren't jerks, I was! What a revalation!! School got a helluva lot easier when I learned to just shut up in class, do the work, and go home. It may be different now, but I had almost no homework in my last 2 years of high school cause I pretty much got everything done in class, but man did I ever have a lot of homework in the years leading up to that. After I figured that out in grade 11 or so, school got a lot easier, and my grades got a lot better. Teachers are easy to figure out - once you do life'll get a lot easier. Basically stop doing stupid stuff.

As far as people talking about suing your parents?!?! That's about the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Some peoples parents suck. And I thought that the parents of some of my friends sucked too when I was younger and they'd crash on our couch. Then I heard the whole story.

And putting this all out online? That's certainly enough for me to sell your stuff. Course it's good time at work wasting reading!
 
Ericman197 said:
I haven't read the entire thread, but I just wanted to throw something out there that no one else would have said:

If your mom is "insane," it is likely that you may also be "insane" to some extent. Genetic inheritance tends to do that. I've known a lot of people who complained about their legitimately crazy parents, only to later find out that those complainers had some of the same crazy traits as the parents. You may not even be expressing your mother's "crazy" traits until you grow up and have kids, so make sure that you don't do the same things she does.

My grandfather was raised in a very strict environment, causing him to resent his father. However, he later got over it. The same thing happened to my father and my self. A lot of these parenting habits are passed on, either by genetics or environment, however you want to think of it. Even the kids who hated how they were raised will oftentimes commit the same "evils" that their parents did. It's just something you might want to keep in mind for future reference.

You're talking about two possible things...genetic inheritance (which is not necessarily going to happen) and the need/want for therapy/medication/expensive basses:smug: due to having "crazy" abusive parents. Nothing is set in stone...e.g. I'm not the parent or the husband my father was.

Ok, back to the thread...

m
 
bassguitar said:
And I thought that the parents of some of my friends sucked too when I was younger and they'd crash on our couch. Then I heard the whole story.

Reminds me of a quote I heard. "When I was growing up, sometimes I thought my parents were jerks. Once I grew up, and looked back on my youth, I realized I was the jerk, and my parents were cool the whole time."

-Mike
 
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