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Rant - crazy mom

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#141
MJ5150 said:
No, you're being dramatic Todd. What has been forgotten here is that Alex did something wrong. It wasn't like his mom went walking through the house and decided to gather up his bass gear and go sell it for something to do.

With the exception of murdering my wife or kids, there is no instance where I would ever considering pressing charges against my parents or suing them.

-Mike
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I've been in more than my share of trouble. My parents are close enough that we can talk through my problems and I can learn from my mistakes. My dad doesn't ask for my bank card. Nor for my Taylor.
 
#142
Todd Stanley said:
.....my point was noone can take my stuff and sell it without my permission and be held at a personal relationship level high enough that I would look the other way.
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Neither would I look the other way. Did it ever occur to you that you can handle family conflicts without the aid of attorneys and police?

-Mike
 
#143
Todd Stanley said:
My dad doesn't ask for my bank card. Nor for my Taylor.
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Same with me. When I was younger, I had my share of toys taken away from me for various stupid things I did. Some of those toys I bought with paper route money. I chose to consider it a tough lesson learned rather than have thoughts of police and litigation go through my mind.

-Mike
 
#144
MJ5150 said:
Neither would I look the other way. Did it ever occur to you that you can handle family conflicts without the aid of attorneys and police?

-Mike
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I said already.....

"I never said to prosecute the mom, but I would never let her take something that is mine and sell it. If she DIDN'T return it, I would tell her, yes, that it IS illegal, and yes, I could press charges. That I didn't want to, and that I love her and want to work things out so that we can have a happy, healthy, mutual respected relationship, and if not, then she caused it, I don't let 1000 dollars fall out of my pocket, and I don't let my mother steal it either."

I stand by that. I would never want to hurt my mom, but she still can't do that. I would definately expect her to return it, if not, I certainly expect her to start rethinking if I tell her I wont just let it go and will call the police. If she still wont, I would call, cops around here would come and most likely just say "Miss just give the boy his money back" and be on their way, I live in a small town, cops might be different there.
 
#145
MJ5150 said:
Same with me. When I was younger, I had my share of toys taken away from me for various stupid things I did. Some of those toys I bought with paper route money. I chose to consider it a tough lesson learned rather than have thoughts of police and litigation go through my mind.

-Mike
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Anything that cost me that amount of money is not just a toy though. Not all of us are rich, I've had my tv taken away as a child, but my parents didn't pawn it, they gave it back a month later after my punishment was over. That's the difference between stealing and taking something away from you.
 
#146
Todd Stanley said:
Well, not my wife. I'm unmarried anyway, my point was noone can take my stuff and sell it without my permission and be held at a personal relationship level high enough that I would look the other way.
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Mike beat me to it, but while you're right here, legal action is way too hardcore in a situation like this. A rig can be recovered, an error made up for. But suing your family would cause any chance of a reasonable relationship with your parents to be out the window. Neither of you could ever trust each other again, at least that's what I think. Besides, it's a long, expensive process that would not be worth $1000 in the end anyways. Even if it isn't your ideal course of action, the fact that you would consider it seems ridiculous to me.

Mods, if you feel the need to close this thread, please instead move it to the lobby, since I (and probably many others) are interested in hearing how this turns out, plus the argument would not be an issue there.
 
#148
MJ5150 said:
Yeah, I did too. I'm done. Time to go watch some ER.

Thanks for the conversation Todd. I repsect your viewpoint even though it is different than mine. Different is good. :D

-Mike
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Yeah I'm not trying to sound like an assclown, and I don't expect everyone to feel the same as I do. That's just how I feel.

Also, I never said anything about sueing at all. There is definately a difference in PEI, Canada between calling the cops to be a reliable and informed mediator and helping things be resolved, and sueing the pants off someone. I hope people don't think I would ever sue my parents, I wouldn't even sue the kid that ran me over and broke my leg last year.
 
#154
Just my two cents...I don't really think us arguing about whether it is morally correct or not to press charges against your family really solves anything for Alex. That and he already said that he wasn't interested in doing so, anyway. Please keep us posted with what happens, Alex; I hope it all goes well!
-Alex
 
#155
So you've lost $900. How far out of pocket are they after supporting you for 15 years? How much more are they going to spend putting you through college?

If my kid was calling me a thief on internet forums, you can be sure I'd take away his basses as well as his amp.
 
#157
Scott Zoltok said:
Terrible, terrible idea.

I think I can sum up a logical course of action:

-Get off Talkbass. I know this is hard for you, but it can be done. ;)

-Heart to heart with the rents, not mentioning the gear. Find out if there's more to the story, just not this story. It may change nothing, but at least it'll put you and your mom on better terms

-School help. Begin with the your friend and the teacher, then go either guidance and/or principal. A detention is a bad thing, you might as well see if you can get it removed. And your mom will respect no one more than the principal

-Then, after the school authority/authorities have had a discussion with the rents, go to your mom again, this time talking about the gear. If she still will not repent, she really is off the deep end.

-If she does not repent, you need assistance outside of the school. Counseling. Not a cop. Counseling.

-Don't get the law involved, that would do far more damage in the long run than the loss of a nice rig

-If nothing else works (and many are going to disagree with me here) I would move out. Shack up with a buddy, or the Y or something. Just for a while, give yourselves some separation.

-Remember: Teachers/school officials have a very difficult time admitting and correcting there mistakes, and would much rather just ignore the situation and hope it goes away. You will need to be annoying, and hope that your teacher is willing to help you out. If not, I fear all may be lost.

Keep us posted! :hyper:
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Removing my foot now! Much better ideas! :)
 
#158
Todd Stanley said:
Their parents spend the money because they sign the contracts, they are the managers, etc. They can take as much money as they want as they are the ones dealing with the childrens money.

If I'm working at Mickey D's, my parents sure as hell don't have even their pinky nail on my money, paycheck, bank card, bank account, receipts, ANYTHING. It's none of their bees wax, and not theirs. It's mine, no matter how old I am.
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If you pay all your living expenses, including rent, food, car, insurance, health etc, then OK. If not, Shaddup.
 
#159
Todd Stanley said:
Nice to know your family can take advantage of you as much as they want without any reprocussion.

Edit: Selling someone elses property is considered stealing in Canada.
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Just so you know, I'm locking up my six year old tonight. He ate the last twinkie, and I PAID FOR IT!
 
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