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RARE Fender club

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Relic Burgundy Mist Team Built CS Jazz
I don't know if it's really that rare, but it is unique and expensive!
Without doubt, someday I will own one of these.
 
I got one for ya'll. This is a complete custom shop Fender. I believe this was built for the bass player from Alien Ant Farm. I remember reading the information next to it and seeing in relation to that.

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Ty Zamora! great player! great bassface too. I was surprised to see it in a Fender catalog back when it was released. Right about the time Alien Ant Farm had it's 15 seconds.
 
Well, I just closed out a post that established that this isn't exactly rare, but not that common.

It's an 82 P-bass (neck S/N S910xxx but neck stamped 9/29/82), transparent blue sapphire over a one-piece ash body.

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I've never seen another one like her...all original except for one broken bridge saddle spring replaced. :)

Randy
 
Hmmm...well maybe they can't give me the patent numbers. The Pino has them, but maybe those decals are pre-distressed. In any case, mine came without. It also doesn't have the period correct flat poles like the Pino, but it does sound good. I'm waiting to see if I can get some answers from the CS about those 2 issues. If I get lucky I'll be able to post some pics of it right now.

Oh yeah, I see what you mean - I'd never noticed those patent numbers on the Pino model before (shame they have to relic the logo too :hmm:).

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In fairness to the CS though, your bass is supposed to be a '59, isn't it? In which case, the patent numbers would be historically inaccurate (they first appeared in 1961, I believe).

So Jason, does your pickup have raised "A" pole-pieces (as used from '57 to '58), or does it have one like this ...

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I don't know how Fender can make the pickup on the Pino model look so historically authentic, when all of their other CS P Basses get these "production line" vintage reissue (as used on the US Vintage series basses) pickups, with the pole-pieces that look like they've been put through a pencil sharpener :spit: ...

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Every other pickup manufacturer seems to get it right ...

Lindy Fralin:

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Seymour Duncan:

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Carey Nordstrand:

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... so why can't Fender :confused:?

Personally, I find the Fender pickups sound too thin for my liking anyway, so I swapped both of mine out for the Fralins and am very happy with the tone now :smug:.

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Oh yeah, I see what you mean - I'd never noticed those patent numbers on the Pino model before (shame they have to relic the logo too :hmm:).
It seems to work for the Pino though, I think.

Well, I sent the bass back to have the two issues fixed. I think it was a miscommunication from my dealer, who had a unique way of ordering from the CS. I didn't fill out any forms, but rather just wrote on a piece of paper what I wanted.

I got a call two weeks ago from the CS to make sure they were doing what I wanted. They said they had already replaced the logo and told me they were out of stock of the Pino pickups but were special winding me a set. They also asked me if I wanted them aged like Pinos, to which I said no.
I should be seeing it any day now.



In fairness to the CS though, your bass is supposed to be a '59, isn't it? In which case, the patent numbers would be historically inaccurate (they first appeared in 1961, I believe).
You believe correctly, but no, it's supposed to be a '62. They may have used the parts they use for the '59s, but the neck on this one is a bit chunkier than the one on my '59.

So Jason, does your pickup have raised "A" pole-pieces (as used from '57 to '58), or does it have one like this ...
It has (had) the non-raised A poles. I presume they were the '62 reissue pups.



I don't know how Fender can make the pickup on the Pino model look so historically authentic, when all of their other CS P Basses get these "production line" vintage reissue (as used on the US Vintage series basses) pickups, with the pole-pieces that look like they've been put through a pencil sharpener :spit: ...

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Every other pickup manufacturer seems to get it right...

... so why can't Fender :confused:?
I don't know. This is a sore subject for me too. They take the time to include the router hump and the correct body and headstock contours. It would be nice if as much attention was paid to the pickups.

Personally, I find the Fender pickups sound too thin for my liking anyway, so I swapped both of mine out for the Fralins and am very happy with the tone now :smug:.

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These pickups didn't sound bad to me. I may have lived with them if it were the only issue I had, but since it was going back anyway...

I didn't, however, like the pickups on my '59. I agree with you about them sounding thin. I replaced those with Antiquities and it's now the nicest bass I've ever had. I'm hoping the '62 tries to supplant it, but it has mighty big shoes to fill.
 
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I got a call two weeks ago from the CS to make sure they were doing what I wanted. They said they had already replaced the logo and told me they were out of stock of the Pino pickups but were special winding me a set. They also asked me if I wanted them aged like Pinos, to which I said no.
I should be seeing it any day now.

Well, be sure to come back and post some more pics, won't you?


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You believe correctly, but no, it's supposed to be a '62. They may have used the parts they use for the '59s, but the neck on this one is a bit chunkier than the one on my '59.

It has (had) the non-raised A poles. I presume they were the '62 reissue pups.

I don't know. This is a sore subject for me too. They take the time to include the router hump and the correct body and headstock contours. It would be nice if as much attention was paid to the pickups.

These pickups didn't sound bad to me. I may have lived with them if it were the only issue I had, but since it was going back anyway...

I didn't, however, like the pickups on my '59. I agree with you about them sounding thin. I replaced those with Antiquities and it's now the nicest bass I've ever had. I'm hoping the '62 tries to supplant it, but it has mighty big shoes to fill.

Interesting stuff :)!

I didn't realise that the neck profiles differed from '59 to '62, but I'm no expert (or did you custom order it with a fatter neck?). I agree about the lack of consitency and poor attention to detail on certain parts of the Time Machine series basses, but then "lack of consistency and poor attention to detail" are big part of Fenders' heritage, aren't they :p?

I also don't see why Fender made (relatively) authentic lower gear ratio tuners for their '55 P Bass, but put the standard Gotoh high ratio tuners on the '59 P Bass!? One arguement would be to save on production costs, but

a. these are not cheap instruments anyway and
b. they are marketed as being the most authentic recreations possible today (or that's what's implied, at least).

I have a CS '59 P on the way myself, but it's so far off the original spec that I don't even care about the historical accuracy now - it's just a bass to play and drool over :smug:!

Hope your '62 fulfills all of your wishes too, Jason.

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Well, be sure to come back and post some more pics, won't you?




Interesting stuff :)!

I didn't realise that the neck profiles differed from '59 to '62, but I'm no expert (or did you custom order it with a fatter neck?).Hope your '62 fulfills all of your wishes too, Jason.

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Thanks, Fender32. I will post more pics when it gets here.

I didn't ask for a fatter neck...in fact I wish I'd have asked for it to be like my '59, but I assume they're all a bit different from neck to neck anyway. I hope you'll be enjoying your '59 as well when you get it.
 
Thanks, Fender32. I will post more pics when it gets here.

I didn't ask for a fatter neck...in fact I wish I'd have asked for it to be like my '59, but I assume they're all a bit different from neck to neck anyway. I hope you'll be enjoying your '59 as well when you get it.

Thanks Jason! Like you, I doubt that the bass will live up to my (unreasonably) high expectations, but I'm sure hoping it at least comes close ;).
 
Serialnumber JV00916.
Havent heard of an older Fender Japan bas than this :cool:
So is this the first jazz from outside US?
 

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'83 Walnut Elite II P:

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hands down the walnut Elite II is my ULTIMATE GAS. i absolutely LOVE that bass.

that being said i hope i brought my A game and i will explain WHY its so rare.

i have a 92-93ish Fender Precision Plus...no super big deal BUT...

A) the natural ash with maple neck wasnt on the list of combos initially. it was a special order towards the end of the run. the ash was suposed to comboed with rosewood. this wasnt a special order bass which brings me to the next point...

B) This came factory WITHOUT the TBX tone control series/parallel switch. this was the definitive characteristic of the Plus model as far as electronics were concerned.

C) This may be one of the last ones to leave the factory.
When i noticed the odd color combo and the lack of TBX i contacted Fender with detail pics and simply asked what it was and what was the deal with it...
i was told the pics were shopped around to the people of that era and no one could recall any ever leaving like this. as best as they could figure it was basically a parts bass. combining the leftovers . i was told the neck serial vs the nat ash body dosent jive with production but it was definitely believed to be done factory.

so my search has been constant for these odd balls and in all my searches ive seen 4! thats it just 4. 3 have been on ebay including mine which i got a great deal on as it was improperly labeled a Hot Rod. one is owned by the bassist of the band Glassjaw. if i could have i would have bought the other 2 ive found as all of these oddballs have absolutely ove the top KILLER ash grain...mine being the most killer of the ones ive found. hands down this is the absolute highest quality Fender bass i have ever played and ive played a ton, nothing stacks.

heres my pics, hope my A game was enough to let me play ball with you. If anone knows any backstory to the few that slipped out please let me know. im always looking for info.
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