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Recommend a looper.....

#21
You can only undo the last loop that was recorded with the Boss or Jamman (I believe it's the same with the Boomerang). By last loop I really mean last loop- if you record a loop and then overdub on top of it with three more loops, you can only remove the fourth. After the fourth is removed, you cannot remove the third....trying to do so actually re-does the last deleted loop on the Boss and puts it back on for you.

For what you want, you need a looper capable of making more that one base loop. The new Looperlative can make eight stereo loops. The new Boss RC-50 will make three loops. The Echoplex can as well, but I don't remember how many (base) loops you can make. You can still overdub on top of each of these loops as well.
 
#24
if you are serious about doing cool things with looping you have to go with either an echoplex or an electrix repeater. the repeaters are no longer made, but there are rumors that the company may be reviving from the dead. i did a comparison between all the loopers and ended up deciding that the repeater worked best for me because it offers 4 unique tracks to loop on along with a TON of other features (including midi capable for use with a floor board) and CFC memory. check out loopers-delight.com, you'll find tons of GREAT info on this...or ask steve lawson in his forum.

good luck!
swimmin in the loop|pool
 
#26
Ambiloop can do tons of things but you really need a good MIDI controller like an FCB1010 or similar to take the best advantage of it. I have used it with just the keyboard shortcuts but having an highly programmable MIDI controller makes a huge difference. Ambiloop supports 8 loops that can each be mono or stereo and are limited only by available computer memory.

I have always lusted for a Repeater but not about to spend that sort of cash.

Peace,
S
 
#28
cosmicevan said:
if you are serious about doing cool things with looping you have to go with either an echoplex or an electrix repeater. the repeaters are no longer made, but there are rumors that the company may be reviving from the dead. i did a comparison between all the loopers and ended up deciding that the repeater worked best for me because it offers 4 unique tracks to loop on along with a TON of other features (including midi capable for use with a floor board) and CFC memory. check out loopers-delight.com, you'll find tons of GREAT info on this...or ask steve lawson in his forum.

good luck!
swimmin in the loop|pool
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I wouldn't purchase a thing from Electrix at this point. After witnessing how they kept screwing over their customers and dealers over the past what, over a year now? by pushing back the release date of the Repeater MKII so that money would still be coming in without actually having any product at all. A lot of retailers now won't even carry their products, and Electrix has no customer service left- just check out their own forum on their own site- they completely ignored their customers as soon as they started asking "when am I going to get the product I paid for?" Everyone had to get their money back.
 
#29
i totally hear you brian. i own 2 repeaters and they have some quirks. the company has held onto the OS update even though there is a community of folks begging for it. there has been talk of reverse engineering the OS and fixing some of the issues. the biggest issue with them is their signal path. they are SUPER noisy...but all that aside, feature-wise...the electrix repeaters are SO bad ass. with a midi floorboard (like the FCB1010) you can access every button and slider on the unit with your feet and you have 4 separate tracks to loop on. at times you can find one really cheap, but usually they are pretty pricey.

there is also a noise mod that peter at condor electronics does that i hear is killer. i will hopefully be doing it to one of my repeaters and would be happy to report on the difference. i can even post sound clips of the noise before and after the mod.
 
#30
That'd be interesting to hear. I really wanted the new Repeater but gave up hope sometime last fall when it became obvious it wasn't gonna happen.

The new Looperlative offers a lot of hope though, as it's very feature-laden and versatile, although it's out of my price range now.
 
#31
Bryan R. Tyler said:
Boss RC-20 or RC-20XL are as good as you'll do and both are quite user-friendly,
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+1

I tried several and I found the RC-20XL to be the easiet to use. As I use mine in performance, I appreciate the "Loop Quantiize" feature which corrects for minor human errors.

The drawback is that there is no PC integration. However, I routinley generate stuff on a PC or sequenncer and send it to my RC-20 as an 1/4" signal.
 
#35
Bassist4Life said:
I am considering a Jamman in the near future. I dig that it can hookup to my computer to archive my loops.
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This a big plus for me, too. That's one of the main reasons why I want one.

Bassist4Life said:
I've tried some software based loopers in the past and I've always ended up with latency issues. Anyone have this problem?
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I have run into this as well in using Audacity, and I can't seem to figure out how to fix the problem.

Also, I need a footswitch. Anyone know of what kind to look for?
 
#36
Depending on the computer/sound card there might be a software control to reduce latency. Unfortunatly this probably won't affect Audacity as it has to process itself. With my motherboard sound setup I have the option of monitoring with that with (virtually) no latency. From what I've heard, I'm generally lucky in that respect.

One way of avoiding all latency issues is to split your signal and run an amp for monitoring, but still have the direct into the computer.
 
#37
have any of you guys used a line6 toneport as an input for your bass? i use that when i record and there is no latency at all...i don't know how it would work with superlooper or any other software looper, but it does work with garageband, i would assume it works with any recording/loop software, and there is no latency there...
 
#38
This is a very informative thread for me. Latency issues in the past actually made me go out and purchase a Fostex MR-8. I absolutely love how easy this thing is to use. Anyhow; it does have the ability to loop, but it's not practical for a performing situation.

My next toy will be the Jamman. My workstation is going to look like a toy store. Big red 8-track, blue multi-effect pedal, and a purple looper... :p

Joe
 
#39
recording latency is much different than processing latency. when using a software looper you'll encounter software latency that you won't have when recording. this is because the software is processing the audio to loop as opposed to simply storing the recorded audio. a good way to understand the latency that you'd have with a software looper would be to record your bass with about 10 different plugins running while recording. try that with the line6...i assure you that even with the fastest of the fastest computers, you'll have latency.

hardware loopers are the way to go if you plan on performing live with a looper. your audience may not be so sypathetic when you tell them, "oh hang on, i just need to reboot, then i'll restart that tune"
 

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