Double Bass Red Eye Preamp

[JBarz]

I’m running full circle -> Redeye -> Lehle volume pedal ->tuner->le bass tube pre ->ditto-> hpf pre

pretty pretty pretty … good

trying to keep it simple for now

 

[Jay Corwin]

Just curious what you guys are using the looper for? Never seen that on an upright rig.

 

[JBarz]

Just curious what you guys are using the looper for? Never seen that on an upright rig.

I use mine for solo practice and tune learning.
Loop station for solo playing

The Ditto is the first I’ve seen with true bypass, so that and it’s tiny footprint and price have made it a permanent resident on my bass pedal rig.

 

[flatback]

The Ditto is an essential practice tool for instant aural feedback on your playing. It can capture whole sections of practice or make short loops to practice over. I often end up on stage while the pianist is in the John … I’m always throwing in little loops and playing over them during those times. The sound quality is totally excellent and it is true bybass which means there is no headache having it in your SC.
I love putting in a bass line and playing the melody over it. Over and over… until it is convincing to me and then switching.

 

[statsc]

Also useful to enable you to walk out into the audience to hear what you sound like, I would think!

 

[basss]

I got to use the Red Eye on a gig last night. Small jazz club, maybe 75 seats and full, listening audience. The soundman ran the bass pretty hot and I was hearing more PA than anything else. It sounded good, I was comfortable with the sound which rarely happens for me when I run a DI into a PA. The Red Eye came through!

 

[sidonbass]

I just purchased the Red Eye Twin. It is nothing short of Fabulous. We all know, what we want is the sound of our upright, only louder. This does it. Pure and simple.

 

[Earl]

Yep!

 

[Jim Dombrowski]

I just purchased the Red Eye Twin. It is nothing short of Fabulous. We all know, what we want is the sound of our upright, only louder. This does it. Pure and simple.

Until you put 4 or 5 other items between the Red Eye and your amp.

 

[JBarz]

Until you put 4 or 5 other items between the Red Eye and your amp.

… or insist on running two channels with the humbucker mixed in. It’s a sickness…

Today, I tried the Redeye today powered via XLR phantom power from my AI Focus 2R with the Krivo running into the second channel, no effects, into the cab from my old broken GK 112. ... Set the volume in the amp for the Krivo @3 o'clock and the piezo @9 o'clock. I am very pleased, suffice to say. I feel like I am really close to nailing the loud-as-I-please "MBOL" arco sound of my dreams... until tomorrow, when I start fiddling with something else...

 

[Ric Vice]

I’m a “all in one box” bassist. So, if it can be accomplished in one unit, i.e. the Grace Felix or Headway EDB-2 H.E.
then I’m always interested. Just my take of course.

 

[Earl]

Can the Red Eye Twin power a Stat B pickup?

 

[Pat Harris]

The Red Eye does not supply power to anything but *it* can be powered by phantom power or battery.

 

[Earl]

The Red Eye does not supply power to anything but *it* can be powered by phantom power or battery.

Yes it does. One of the channels on the Twin supplies phantom power for a small mic and I wonder if this is enough phantom for the Stat.

From the Gollihur website:

• The input on Channel B can be switched to a microphone input, with electret phantom power - so it can be used with the K&K Golden Bullet, or similar small mics!

 

[Jeff Kissell]

Yes it does. One of the channels on the Twin supplies phantom power for a small mic and I wonder if this is enough phantom for the Stat.

From the Gollihur website:

• The input on Channel B can be switched to a microphone input, with electret phantom power - so it can be used with the K&K Golden Bullet, or similar small mics!

When I talked to Bruce Bartlett about the 12v electret power in the Grace ALiX, he said it was not true phantom and doesn’t work that well for mics that require phantom power. (The Felix has true 48v but not the ALiX.) My take away from that conversation was “it depends on the mic.”
Fwiw, I’m currently using a Clarus S3 to power the Bartlett and running that into the effects in on the Clarus SL with the Lifeline into 1Mohm SL input. Thinking on a Felix instead for endless routing and eq possibilities!

 

[JBarz]

Looking forward to the full report on the Redeye>Noble. I've got this Two Notes Le Bass pre on my rig to get the tube harmonics/color and, try as I might, this Red-Eye DOES NOT get along with it, imho. Something weird happens and it gets almost unusable in crunchiness (with my amp, my bass, etc -- YMMV). I am having great tonal success running the Krivo into the tube and the piezo through the red-eye into separate channels, though. What a rabbit hole!

I figured this one out - it was just simply a matter of switching the impedance on the PJB amp from 'passive' to 'active' (doh!). I guess running through the RedEye turns the piezo into an active pup (I don't know what I'm talking about). Huge improvement, though... Speaking clear as a bell now. Still sounds best with HPF PRE v3 right behind it, but no need to run through the Le Bass tube pre -- that just seems to muddy up the outstanding clarity.

 

[DoubleMIDI]

Passive means no active (= amplifying) electronics are used in the input signal, a high impedance input to reduce the load on the input signal.

Active means amplifiers are used before the amp input, a lower impedance input.

A passive input that only has a higher input impedance should work as well as the active input for an amplified input signal (voltage and/or current), but if the amplification factor/sensitivity differs, that might not be the case.

 

[ctxbass]

I received a Fire Eye Dee-Eye today and had just enough time to check it out at home before taking it to the gig. It is a stripped down version with no controls and no battery option, it only runs on 48 volt phantom power supplied to the XLR output.
I plugged it into the XLR input of my EA Doubler and it worked perfectly. I had to back the input gain way down, but there was more than enough headroom. I had my tuner in the Dee-Eye effects loop and its mute-to-tune function worked. The Doubler's HPF, which I usually find insufficient, was enough to do the job.
The circuitry in the Fire Eye preamp really does a great job of evening out the signal from the pickup, in this case a Planet Wing. I'll need to gig with it some more, but it also seems to increase the dynamic range for me.

 

[flatback]

Im a little worried that Daren forgot about the box he was going to send out for trial...I have not received it and I feel kinda awkward pushing at all...Maybe whoever was gunna get it first might write to him and see if it just got forgotten about or if interest waned....
I am still using mine every gig. Love it. very clean and works great going into a tube pre.

 

[JBarz]

I’ve been loving mine, too. I’m looking at bass amplification in a whole different way now. Thought about trading up for the twin to blend, but I decided to ditch the Krivo (and subsequently everything else but the amp and redeye.)