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Double Bass Red Eye Preamp
- Thread starter Pat Harris
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Nice! I was thinking of just popping for one, but really I'd love to get my hands on one beforehand if the opportunity existed.
I’ve used my Twin for 2 gigs in the past few weeks and I am a happy camper. I just used the B channel and the boost for regular playing/breaks then use the A channel as a mute. The single treble knob suits my personality - no fuss. I’ve no clue how to compare it to anything else and I don’t know or care about the techy aspects of it. It just just works. I did not use my HPF last gig, as the PA had that function. I may use it with other PA systems in the future. All I know is it sounded good and there was no feedback at a generous volume.
BTW just tried the EAP with the Redeye and it sounds frickin great .
Just out of curiosity: Have you compared the EAP into the Redeye vs. the EAP into the Sarno Black Box?
I use the latter into a Grace Felix and a MAS16. I am very happy with that setup, but always curios about other options.
Lifeline. Sounds fine straight into the AI head but when I add the Red Eye into the chain…well you know, that’s what got this thread rolling I suppose.
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I just bought a Red Eye and an new fDeck so that I can have a battery powered mini pedalboard. A couple gigs we played didnt have enough outlets for my black box and preamp plugs....and I brought a power strip! My fellow musicians apparently needed the outlets more than I did and luckily I to have an AI head and can go bass to amp and still get quality sound.
As we move to in-ears, I'd like to shrink everything, including my pedalboard and outlet needs (not to mention no more rig) so the battery powered Red Eye with a battery powered HPF seems to be the move for me.
As we move to in-ears, I'd like to shrink everything, including my pedalboard and outlet needs (not to mention no more rig) so the battery powered Red Eye with a battery powered HPF seems to be the move for me.
Yeah the Redeye is a thinner sound then the Black box but clearer. The best way to describe it is really what Daren says it does: it applys only the right impedance to each note. SO the bottom notes have 4.5Mohm or something but as you go up instead of all those notes still having the 4.5M imp they have less as needed. It sounds quicker and like it does not need eq. Personally I like the sound with the Redeye going INTO a tube preamp. I played last night with just the Redeye into the Sarno and it was perfect (I didn't need a HPF at all...in fact I used the E side Yamahiko and thats it and it was great)
Just got the twin. Im going to try it out this week and then send it on. I want to try both splitting the Yamahikos into each of its inputs and blending with the EAP but I dont really think I need that at all and prolly wont use it but who knows it may be crazy good (I am a big fan of blending two pickups unevenly 60/40 which can give a very 3D sound)
Just got the twin. Im going to try it out this week and then send it on. I want to try both splitting the Yamahikos into each of its inputs and blending with the EAP but I dont really think I need that at all and prolly wont use it but who knows it may be crazy good (I am a big fan of blending two pickups unevenly 60/40 which can give a very 3D sound)
So here is the thing: I just did a couple weeks of gigs convincing myself that the Redeye is totally killin and I dont need bridged I dont need two pickups, it is such a clear signal, such a useful crisp sound up and down the fingerboard, that just the simple little box into whatever front end will work (a tube pre is nice but I imagine that if someone hadn't stolen my Focus head a few years back it would sound great thru that too)...SO this morning I hooked up the Twin with one each of the Yamahikos going into either channel and set the blend to 70/30 like I like, not expecting better but just kinda too much of the same, but HOTDAMN that sounds excellent. It does the 3D thing, the two signals blend so well (the Redeye does NOT have a polarity switch on it and I DO have one Y pickup with the opposite polarity) that I am convinced. The twin is different in that you cannot power it externally and it DOES have gain for each of the channels. Easy to get the right blend and still has the most excellent boost and the treble knob could be a slightly more bass friendly point but it also works great to add or subtract that crispness (it does make a significant aural change).
I am going to try the EAP blended in but leave the Stat B trial to someone else (my new bridge does not have the Stat Wedge.)
Personally, owning the single already and having it on a pedal board where it can be powered and locked in, I may stick with that. But I dont know this twin really has a huge amount going for it. Because the Imp matching thing is so excellent you really don't need eq (flat is great) so what this small box has to offer kind of kicks all the bigger boxes asses: it has blending (no mic tho) boost, gain, stellar Imp matching, DI, effects loop (amp) and all the other bull is left for another box. I'm lovin it.
I am going to try the EAP blended in but leave the Stat B trial to someone else (my new bridge does not have the Stat Wedge.)
Personally, owning the single already and having it on a pedal board where it can be powered and locked in, I may stick with that. But I dont know this twin really has a huge amount going for it. Because the Imp matching thing is so excellent you really don't need eq (flat is great) so what this small box has to offer kind of kicks all the bigger boxes asses: it has blending (no mic tho) boost, gain, stellar Imp matching, DI, effects loop (amp) and all the other bull is left for another box. I'm lovin it.
Earl
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So who's using the Red-Eye and blending a mic with their pickup? What are you using for the mic preamp and to do the blending?
The Twin doesn't really look like a good option for a mic. (A condenser mic anyway. I suppose a dynamic mic into a transformer into one channel could work, but I have no idea how the impedance matching circuit would handle that.)
The Twin doesn't really look like a good option for a mic. (A condenser mic anyway. I suppose a dynamic mic into a transformer into one channel could work, but I have no idea how the impedance matching circuit would handle that.)
The Twin arrived and has been sent out on its tour.
So most everyone is using the Fire-Eye preamps with only pickups? No mics blended in? That sure sounds convenient, but....
First world problems, as my co-worker used to say.
I like the Lifeline a lot, but it sure could use some more upper frequencies IME and IMO. Does the Red-Eye do anything to help with that? More definition, presence, or whatever you want to call it? Maybe I should sell everything and go Yamahiko into a Fire-Eye.... but I just got my Headway and I really likeLifeline. Sounds fine straight into the AI head but when I add the Red Eye into the chain…well you know, that’s what got this thread rolling I suppose.
First world problems, as my co-worker used to say.
I sent the twin on to its next trial bassist. I love that sound of the two and maybe I'll buy one but right now I have a micro pedal with a tuner looper HPF and redeye and it is all nicely hooked together and daisychained and I just plug and play and it sounds so good and is so nice I dont want to mess with it. But the 2 Yama's into the twin sound great.
