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Reiner Amplification Gasoline Bass Overdrive

#102
monsterthompson said:
Still enjoying mine. I occasionally wish I could darken it a bit (like a BBBOD or a TH), and/or compress it a little more. I generally just run a comp ahead of it, and/or a darker pedal or amp setting after it.
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I can understand where you are coming from. I could have made the Octane control go darker, but I have never personably cared for dirty tones significantly darker than my stock clean signal; so I opted for fully CCW being flat, which I think in the end will help folks dial things in easier by giving them a useful reference point. The overdrive is a lot less compressed than many pedals by design; I wanted more responsiveness to playing dynamics, and a big tube stack kind of feel - again personal preference, and maybe something a bit different than what’s already out there.
 
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#103
JGR said:
I can understand where you are coming from. I could have made the Octane control go darker, but I have never personably cared for dirty tones significantly darker than my stock clean signal; so I opted for fully CCW being flat, which I think in the end will help folks dial things in easier by giving them a useful reference point. The overdrive is a lot less compressed than many pedals by design; I wanted more responsiveness to playing dynamics, and a big tube stack kind of feel - again personal preference, and maybe something a bit different than what’s already out there.
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Not a problem. It is just good to know how the tools you use are intended to work. I have plenty of darker, more compressed pedals. The Gasoline wouldn't be my one and only, if I had to pick one, but it is useful, and certainly has its strong points. I tend to find the settings I like most are subtle enough that it is easy to dismiss them as "not doing anything" until you turn the pedal off. I don't use it as a radical tone shape-r, but more of a fine tune-r. While I don't love it for my style of finger style, with a Stingray or a P and a pick, the thing is really impressive.
 
#104
Can't believe I missed some of these posts when they happened. Anyway...

dukeorock said:
Not very savvy on stacking ... Might even accidentally do something that sounds cool
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Took me decades to realize that stacking dirt should even be done... I used to be like, "TWO distortions? Maybe for guitar, doesn't make sense for bass!" Thanks to JGR I discovered parallel distortion (RBI plus RBM SansAmps), and that opened my mind to distortion in series. Whoa! When it works, it's awesome.

I'm still no expert, I just go with what seems like common sense trial-and-error experimentation, but I do get cool results "accidentally". Last pedal in the chain seems to have the biggest effect, tone-wise. (Of course distortion will only increase through stacking, regardless of order, and unsurprisingly there are negative effects when you overdo it). For metal, my Darkglass B7K is always last in the chain because its strong coloration happens to be perfect for me for that genre, but it sounds even better with the Gasoline stacked into it.

I love stacking even for the traditional tones I use with classic rock, pop, blues, R&B, country, etc. I'll take 2-3 of my most neutral/transparent ODs -- Gasoline is always one of 'em, ever since I got it -- all set for gentle to moderate OD, and generate additional overdrive by stacking. I have a number of pedals I'll use for this application, but I have to mention that the Reiner Gasoline plus Damnation Audio MBD-1 is a GREAT combo. The Gasoline is mid-focused, and the MBD-1 (with its Depth control) delivers all the phat lows you want and then some.

Here's a pic I posted here last December: holiday party with a band that plays classic rock/R&B. None of the pedals were set for heavy overdrive. I often switched from one to the other for different flavors of OD (mellower, deeper, punchier, etc), occasionally combining two, mostly by whim (if it works, it works). When stacking all three, I got a tone that worked very well for Cream and Free covers... the studio versions, anyway. (A fuzz is generally required for true TubaTone. ;))

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Some of the stages I play are too cramped for a single pedal, let alone three. I LOVE to stack 'em when I can, though. FWIW I only use dirt... it would be cool to try delay/verb as you mentioned, I just don't want to get into other types of FX. (I own a couple of nice pedal compressors, but rarely use 'em... if I ever build a pedalboard, a compressor will be on it).
 
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#105
For me the magic of the pedal is in the "sounds just like your clean tone, but with some dirt added on top" thing that it does so well. If I want something more aggressive, or darker, or [insert adjective here] I've got other options. For a daily driver, utility, all-purpose overdrive it's just about as good as it gets for me.
 
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#106
monsterthompson said:
Still enjoying mine. I occasionally wish I could darken it a bit (like a BBBOD or a TH), and/or compress it a little more. I generally just run a comp ahead of it, and/or a darker pedal or amp setting after it.
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So, the Rich setting isn't dark enough? That probably means our tastes are different. I like my BBBOD clone, but fact is I don't often use it because I'd prefer not to have dark out of the box (bad pun intended). I should mention that most of my basses, including most of my actives, have a passive tone control... that's how I go dark.
 
#107
Fuzzbass said:
So, the Rich setting isn't dark enough? That probably means our tastes are different. I like my BBBOD clone, but fact is I don't often use it because I'd prefer not to have dark out of the box (bad pun intended). I should mention that most of my basses, including most of my actives, have a passive tone control... that's how I go dark.
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I'm sure we have different tastes, and I'm sure most people on this board aren't after what I'm after.

I see where you are going, but the Gasoline in Rich wouldn't be my weapon of choice for the times I want a darker sound. I'm sure our gear is different. I run a Demeter VTBP M 800D or a Darkglass 900 through a Barefaced BB2, so I have plenty of transparency and mids/highs. If I was running a darker amp/cab, then I would be more satisfied with the Gasoline for that purpose. There are other characteristics the Rich setting brings in, which aren't what I'm after. I'm aware of tone controls and EQ options, and how they work. However, changing the tone of the bass isn't changing the character of the overdrive in the way I want it. For me, the best solution is to run a Duncan Studio Bass first, then the Gasoline. I'm happy with the sound I get there. That said, when I'm after a darker finger-style tone, the Gasoline isn't what I want. With a pick and some other dirt in the chain, I really like what it does.

...Which reminds me, I still need to post the recording I did in January, using the Gasoline. The mix is still pretty raw, and was intended to sound rough, but I'm happy with how it turned out.
 
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#108
Fuzzbass said:
Can't believe I missed some of these posts when they happened. Anyway...



Took me decades to realize that stacking dirt should even be done... I used to be like, "TWO distortions? Maybe for guitar, doesn't make sense for bass!" Thanks to JGR I discovered parallel distortion (RBI plus RBM SansAmps), and that opened my mind to distortion in series. Whoa! When it works, it's awesome.

I'm still no expert, I just go with what seems like common sense trial-and-error experimentation, but I do get cool results "accidentally". Last pedal in the chain seems to have the biggest effect, tone-wise. (Of course distortion will only increase through stacking, regardless of order, and unsurprisingly there are negative effects when you overdo it). For metal, my Darkglass B7K is always last in the chain because its strong coloration happens to be perfect for me for that genre, but it sounds even better with the Gasoline stacked into it.

I love stacking even for the traditional tones I use with classic rock, pop, blues, R&B, country, etc. I'll take 2-3 of my most neutral/transparent ODs -- Gasoline is always one of 'em, ever since I got it -- all set for gentle to moderate OD, and generate additional overdrive by stacking. I have a number of pedals I'll use for this application, but I have to mention that the Reiner Gasoline plus Damnation Audio MBD-1 is a GREAT combo. The Gasoline is mid-focused, and the MBD-1 (with its Depth control) delivers all the phat lows you want and then some.

Here's a pic I posted here last December: holiday party with a band that plays classic rock/R&B. None of the pedals were set for heavy overdrive. I often switched from one to the other for different flavors of OD (mellower, deeper, punchier, etc), occasionally combining two, mostly by whim (if it works, it works). When stacking all three, I got a tone that worked very well for Cream and Free covers... the studio versions, anyway. (A fuzz is generally required for true TubaTone. ;))

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Some of the stages I play are too cramped for a single pedal, let alone three. I LOVE to stack 'em when I can, though. FWIW I only use dirt... it would be cool to try delay/verb as you mentioned, I just don't want to get into other types of FX. (I own a couple of nice pedal compressors, but rarely use 'em... if I ever build a pedalboard, a compressor will be on it).
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I’ve never hung onto a pedal compressor for whatever reason. Never found em that useful, but now that I’m getting more into pedals, I could see it coloring things in a nice way.
I very rarely use a pedalboard live, but could see it happening soon. I mostly use my board for writing/recording experimental music, like the ‘single source’ stuff I’ve been doing lately. My humble board is;
Red Panda Particle Delay/Gasoline/Volt Thrower/EHX Cock Fight/EHX Canyon. Just those few pedals yields a ton of whacky stuff
 
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#111
Mosfed said:
Is there a reason (past because I can) that the pedal has to be so big? Can someone post a gut shot?
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It uses chassis mounted jacks, switches, and full-sized pots which are hand-wired to the circuit boards which themselves also take up a fair amount of real estate. It’s pretty packed inside.
 
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JGR said:
It uses chassis mounted jacks, switches, and full-sized pots which are hand-wired to the circuit boards which themselves also take up a fair amount of real estate. It’s pretty packed inside.
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I have lots of all top jacked dirt pedals in 1590bb or smaller (eg Dunwich Volt Thrower, Broughton Sentinel, Dunwich ODB 125B) . No way to order yours custom in a normal enclosure? Especially once I see that its also the same height as the Dunwich ODB.

I ask because Nick at Dunwich loves his big enclosures but will make normal sized runs for either special orders or special runs. It may seem silly but in the land of SO MANY freaking dirt pedals, something like ergonomics is a very easy reason to move onto something else.
 
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Well, I will say...I have a Volt Thrower. It’s nice. I’ve owned a lot of dirt pedals and the Gasoline is the last one I’d part with for what I like. I’m cool with it’s current size if that’s what Jonathan feels it’ll take to make it the way he likes it
 
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#114
dukeorock said:
Well, I will say...I have a Volt Thrower. It’s nice. I’ve owned a lot of dirt pedals and the Gasoline is the last one I’d part with for what I like. I’m cool with it’s current size if that’s what Jonathan feels it’ll take to make it the way he likes it
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To each their own. And look - I haven’t ordered a MBD-1 for the same reason so it’s not like the issue is only with the Gasoline.
 
#115
Mosfed said:
I have lots of all top jacked dirt pedals in 1590bb or smaller (eg Dunwich Volt Thrower, Broughton Sentinel, Dunwich ODB 125B) . No way to order yours custom in a normal enclosure? Especially once I see that its also the same height as the Dunwich ODB.

I ask because Nick at Dunwich loves his big enclosures but will make normal sized runs for either special orders or special runs. It may seem silly but in the land of SO MANY freaking dirt pedals, something like ergonomics is a very easy reason to move onto something else.
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There are a ton of dirt pedals - and I always tell folks, if you can find something that works just as well for less money (or in this case smaller) then by all means go for it! That is certainly the smart thing to do.

When I was building rack preamps, I started out with a 1U design which added a lot of constraints and also made it more difficult to build. The majority of folks had four or six space racks and end up using the space they saved for other stuff like rack tuners and wireless systems that are fun but hardly essential compared to a preamp which is the heart of a system. You see a lot of the same thing with folks that have 95 pedals on their boards. If having more variety is really important, there’s nothing wrong with that, but I don’t feel compelled to accommodate it. And at my price point and low, low quantities it’s not really an issue. I have five more enclosures plus one for myself and I may not even build anymore after that.
 
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