What he said .. I can't find the mini. It looks like the one in the photo is as deep as the amp but no deeper (long you might say .. Front to back). My Heritage 810e angles down right after the back feet of my 1200, so a pad 16" deep like I saw online would hang off the back ..
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Top of a Google search. This is what I bought:
http://www.amazon.com/Auralex-Acous...qid=1456682920&sr=8-3&keywords=auralex+gramma
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Knowing you own a head or two, that is a pretty amazing statement. Putting it in the same conversation as those two, speaks volumes!Initial thoughts are that it really brings more "life" and harmonic detail to the party than pretty much any other head I have tried. Certainly more than any other class-D head. I need to put it up against my SA200 and V-8...
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@tombowlus - that's really interesting... Have you ever experienced this with any other amp? What do you think might be the cause?
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Yes, I have. My DB750 pretty much requires a GRAMMA pad between the head and cab. Many of my all-tube heads also benefit.
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Testing out new basses today and remembering how awesome my 6SL7 pre is. This bass is a recently acquired Bluesman Vintage J. Very sweet bass!
I haven't read through the whole thread so allow me to ask...
What are the prices for the Studio 1200 and VHF 700 ?
What are the prices for the Studio 1200 and VHF 700 ?
I haven't noticed any vibration issues with my Studio 1200, but I'm always looking for a reason to buy more gear. To that end I've got two Baby Gramma pads en route. One for under the cab, one for under the head. Probably overkill, but... Meh... I'm fine with it.
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I am interested to hear if you notice any difference. Please do turn it up a bit when you are evaluating the impact of the pads!
Tom, as you are well aware, the need for vibration isolation is highly dependent on the particular cab and on the flooring beneath it. I will say that IME using isolation devices is good practice. I've had too many issues along the way to the contrary.
Anywho, I also know you have been currently working with the Berg B|Amp, and would be interested in your take between the 1200 and the B|Amp. Maybe the two best of class at the moment? Sounds like you are pretty impressed by the 1200!
I've played the B-Amp and own a Studio 1200. I didn't push the B to determine its total output, but from a purely tonal perspective they are very different animals. The Studio 1200 is the first amp I've ever played that really delivers on the promise of sounding a lot like an all tube amp in a lighter package. The B doesn't seem to make this attempt at all and instead focuses on staying clean and accurate with no ability to push into drive territory or allow for any tube compression. Both have their place and are amazing executions. I can't imagine an individual player not having a strong preference towards one or the other. I for one would never switch out my Studio 1200 for the B-Amp.
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This is true. I will say that I have only been testing the Studio 1200 in one room, so far, but I've used it with multiple cabs, and so far, the Baby GRAMMA has yielded very noticeable benefits with each cab. I will also say that your Tec Padz also help quite a bit, but I found that when I was really digging in, the Studio 1200 was actually vibrating off of the Padz. This was with my AudioKinesis TC115AF, with none of the plugs in, so it was definitely reproducing some deep stuff.
The B|Amp is another phenomenal head, but in my mind, it's shooting at a different target. The B|Amp is amazingly clean, full, smooth and balanced. The 1200 is also full, balanced from top to bottom, and has excellent clarity, but it obviously has more harmonic excitement going on, and it definitely evokes the (good) sounds of an all-tube head. The Berg will give you back whatever you put into it, but on its own, it is trying to be much more invisible than the 1200.
You can cover a LOT of ground with these two heads, let me tell you!
I auditioned the B-amp at Jive Sound not long ago. I agree that it's a truly amazing amp. I would guess that when it pushes a cab that matches one of the DSP profiles then output will be close enough to the 1200. The B-Amp has so many cool and useful features in addition to DSP.
All that said, I'm with silky: the tube magic of the 1200 is a must-have for me. It's larger and heftier than most modern minis, but to me that's a good thing: it's a little unsettling that my TH500 moves around the top of the cab from vibration even at moderate volume, and offers little resistance to even a gentle tug of the instrument cable.
So to echo the others: both are fantastic, no doubt about it. However the 1200 is easily the better choice for me.
I need to update you. I ran into the same thing with a cab that wasn't so well behaved. I've fixed it, but have been busy resolving other issues that created. I've basically added Sorbothane. Early version on the web site. Also scaled for large tube heads and for cabs. Stay tuned.
That's a very telling comment. Thanks.The B|Amp is another phenomenal head, but in my mind, it's shooting at a different target. The B|Amp is amazingly clean, full, smooth and balanced. The 1200 is also full, balanced from top to bottom, and has excellent clarity, but it obviously has more harmonic excitement going on, and it definitely evokes the (good) sounds of an all-tube head. The Berg will give you back whatever you put into it, but on its own, it is trying to be much more invisible than the 1200.
You can cover a LOT of ground with these two heads, let me tell you!
