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Double Bass Respect What is it? How do you earn it? (DB Forum thread)
- Thread starter Treyzer
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why not start by renewing supporting memberships....one of the supporting member benefits, the TB Lounge, could be a "safer" posting place for those who are worried and so concerned about who is walking into a discussion. other than that, there are a number of other DB sites (Ken Smith?) out there that might feel better. but those places simply don't have the traffic numbers, and forming factions "cliques" is even more of a problem than it is here.....i'm not sure that some of the experienced music business types "pros" you are speaking of would post here so much at all if the member numbers here were reduced.many of them just don't have the time unless it's going to further their business needs.
becoming a registered TB member is pretty easy.....more hoops to jump through at the time of registration will certainly reduce the number of registrants. i don't know for sure, but it could be that the advertisers who support this site are very aware of the membership and traffic numbers. in that case certainly, lower numbers would have to diminish their interest too.
Greg Clinkingbeard
Commercial User
I would take either over any of Marc's picks. Not that I don't respect his choice in women; I just don't share it. They're all very nice, really, but my preference is for a bit more..........substance. 
p.s. I respect all women and those who admire women.
p.s. I respect all women and those who admire women.
Moral compass aside, Tim doesn't have the right prayer cloth.
Six Lombardis... someone upstairs approves of this team. Tebow better ask around...
I would take either over any of Marc's picks. Not that I don't respect his choice in women; I just don't share it. They're all very nice, really, but my preference is for a bit more..........substance.
p.s. I respect all women and those who admire women.
While Alyssa Milano will always have a place in my... uh... heart... I was really just continuing the silliness of Van Halen's post. If he can be rich, goodlooking, and drive a bmw I can have girls who are hot (in 2012) hanging out in my living room.
When a person comes on this forum, how are they supposed
to know who the "elite members" are?
When someone trolls you, how do you know when they are
just a troll, or if they are special?
The "elite" seem to stick together and jump on unsuspecting
folks who are just trying to find something out, but they just
say it wrong.
I have worked with professional musicians who for the most
part treated me like a human being. Not like some stupid
low class dumb a$$.
Do they change colors because of where they are. Or they
colored by all the stupid people on TB.
I never became a successful bassest, does that mean I can
not participate.
Do you "elite" guys want all us dumb a$$es out of here?
If you are special, why can't we tell?
TB would be nothing without us.
Tabdog
to know who the "elite members" are?
When someone trolls you, how do you know when they are
just a troll, or if they are special?
The "elite" seem to stick together and jump on unsuspecting
folks who are just trying to find something out, but they just
say it wrong.
I have worked with professional musicians who for the most
part treated me like a human being. Not like some stupid
low class dumb a$$.
Do they change colors because of where they are. Or they
colored by all the stupid people on TB.
I never became a successful bassest, does that mean I can
not participate.
Do you "elite" guys want all us dumb a$$es out of here?
If you are special, why can't we tell?
TB would be nothing without us.
Tabdog
In my opinion, it is usually a good idea to spending some time reading a forum before signing up and posting. Just about any forum will have its own quirks and unwritten protocols, and it's good to get a sense of what those are before jumping into the fray. This applies to pretty much any internet forum, but it applies to the different sides of TB as well. There is a different culture here on the DB side than there is on the EB side, and taking some time to understand that culture and the various personalities here can help prevent misunderstandings.
Excellent response, Febs. Thank you!
When a newcomer to the forum arrives (walks into the bar), he or she (not "they") doesn't need to know at all who are the veterans or who are those who are accomplished in various areas. There are no "elite members." The assumption that there are reveals an important bias on your part. What someone new to the forum would do well to do is what Febs suggests. That is, spend some time reading ("listening"). This isn't unique to TB. The "netiquette" is pretty much the same on similar sites.
Trolling is not a behavior that's tolerated from anyone. It's also not a behavior in which the regulars here engage. If it were, then they wouldn't be regulars here.
I wonder on what you base that generalization. I've been around here a while and that's not at all how I'd characterize what happens. To paraphrase what I said in a previous post in this thread, just as in face-to-face conversations, it matters very much how one asks what he or she asks. Newbies are helped along here regularly and many of them don't know the usual terminology. They are not put upon for their ignorance. When they are put upon, it is because they ask with an air of entitlement, challenge the advice for which they asked, have their minds made up before they ask, don't bother to do a bit of research, or demand an immediate and comprehensive answer.
If you have much experience at all, then you've also encountered professional musicians who do treat you like a "low class dumb a$$." So it is with every group. I don't think that the behavior of the members here (esecially the regulars) is to treat people as "low class dumb a$$(es)."
Sorry, I don't understand this question.
I never became a successful bassist either... at least not in the commercial sense or in the sense of having become a highly accomplished player. I'm not a pro. I have a day job. My playing pales in comparison to many of the people here who are kind enough to share their expertise. I've been participating (and learning) on TB just fine for about seven years.
Again, I don't see that there are any "elites" here. To answer your question, however, if one is, indeed, a "dumb a$$," then we would all be better off if that individual would leave.
Hmm... let me try to understand the meaning of your terms. What does it mean to be "special" around here? I think it means being accomplished and/or knowledgeable in one or more areas relevant to playing the DB bass. It could even mean just being especially insightful in terms of posting about such issues.
Who is "we"? I suppose you are referring to some hidden group who are put upon and treated as "dumb a$$(es)." I suggest to you that such a group does not really exist, so I'll assume it's a group of one, namely you. Have you been treated poorly here in the DB forums? Based on a perusal of your posting history and on what I recall, you haven't been a participant in these forums. So, it seems that the answer is "No." Have you poured over these threads on the DB side of TB and concluded that members are treated badly? If so, please point us to that evidence.
Finally, you ask, "why can't we tell." Well, having defined "special" for you, if you can't tell who is, then I submit that you haven't taken the time to do what Febs suggested. Another explanation is that you're just a.... oh, never mind.
Ah, the mythical group again. The put-upon group who does not post or participate here. The put-upon group that does not take the time to read the threads here. Without such a group, if it existed, the DB side of TB would be just fine. It already is because such a group, thankfully, does not exist.
Greg Clinkingbeard
Commercial User
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Greg Clinkingbeard
Commercial User
And Sam Rivers. And three fine Chicago musicians, John Bishop, Larry Luchowski, and Rick Frigo.
Well!!!! Now you've gone and revealed your elitism! Apparently, you think it's appropriate to ridicule someone's inability to pronounce a name correctly. Maybe the poor guy in the commercial had a difficult upbringing. Maybe he had a learning disability. Maybe he was dyslexic. It's people like you and commercials like that that belie your espoused tolerance and respect for others! Hmmmph!
Just in case anyone missed it....
Wow. That's sad to hear. I never worked with John & Georgia's band, but I played a few gigs with Larry and Ricky over the years, though not together. I remember having a lot of fun playing with Ricky at the Drake...and on breaks in the lounge....
yup, that was a pretty good second person surgical scrubbing, done in typical OCD fashion.
Elitism is not a bad thing. Those who are most skilled at something deserve to be recognised as such.
