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Rick Beato: What bassplayers should know

Just pointing out that the youtube play button changes the title of this video rather dramatically:

screenshot I made of the OP post... when I glance at it.... well, yea.

EDIT: someone beat me to it! LoL
 

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Rick has a ton of useful information and insight. I love his stuff. He comes across as a wise sage. However, I agree with another poster in a different thread that he can be a different guy in the comments section if you cross him. He can turn petulant on a dime and he has a very tender ego. He and I got into it over something very trivial. He's a nice guy, as long as you agree with everything he says. Like a lot of guitarists.
In all my years of using YouTube, I have yet to leave a comment on anyone's video(s)...just one look at the comments section of any single video on that site, you'll see someone getting into it with someone else...:rolleyes:

Not trying to say that nobody should ever be allowed to comment on an uploader's video, nor am I trying to justify Rick Beato maybe reacting to people's comments in an unnecessarily harsh manner. Just a general observation on my part: YouTube commenting has a LOT of potential to go south fast...:facepalm::rollno:
 
Ok, since you asked (are you sitting down)

tip #2 bass in, bass out reflects the dramatic effect of playing the holes louder than the notes, this is stellar information and I agree 1000% (!!!) Beginning bassists and guitarists and drummers think that they 'have to make noise' from the count - in to the end. NO!!! YOU DON'T!!! However (you knew this was coming) the example song isn't the best illustration of that. I'd welcome a better example, anyone care to bite on this?

tip #4 effects and eq.... yes, knowing something about eq and frequencies!!!! (which Rick explains extremely well). However, the need to know how to use compression and distortion - hang on a minute. There are about 'elevendy-billion' live shows and studio tracks with great bass tone in which distortion and compression boxes / pedals were NO where in sight. They are not as necessary as Rick infers...

Thanks for the Rick vid on bass tips, it is excellent, however 'discuss' means you want to know what some of us think, I presume.
 
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That "Era of Perfect Music" video is one of his that I've watched recently.

I'm not particularly experienced/educated in recording, but that video was really an eye-opener...I was (am) aware that, in the era of digital recording, things are infinitely more "tweakable" than back in the day...but at what cost?

I guess that's at least one of the reasons why stuff from the 1970s and 1980s sounds so good to me...not just that it's the music I grew up with, and not just that it was recorded, for the most part (or completely) on old-school/analogue gear, but the fact that even if they wanted to, they didn't have the capability to tweak n' polish it to the point that it became borderline sterile...:meh:
I have mixed feelings on this. I feel like some music was produced to death even in the '70s (ELO and the Alan Parsons Project, for example). And in the '80s, a lot of popular music had a huge, echoing snare with squealing compressed guitars, or a drum machine plus synths.

There's no doubt that pop stuff now is extremely polished. But when young musicians record in an old school/analog way now, they are instantly branded hipsters by older generations.
 
I have mixed feelings on this. I feel like some music was produced to death even in the '70s (ELO and the Alan Parsons Project, for example). And in the '80s, a lot of popular music had a huge, echoing snare with squealing compressed guitars, or a drum machine plus synths.

There's no doubt that pop stuff now is extremely polished. But when young musicians record in an old school/analog way now, they are instantly branded hipsters by older generations.
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tip #2 bass in, bass out reflects the dramatic effect of playing the holes louder than the notes, this is stellar information and I agree 1000% (!!!) Beginning bassists and guitarists and drummers think that they 'have to make noise' from the count - in to the end. NO!!! YOU DON'T!!! However (you knew this was coming) the example song isn't the best illustration of that. I'd welcome a better example, anyone care to bite on this?

My immediate thought in terms of the effective use of space was this one. Of course it is a great example of arranging and performance on the part of all the musicians...but that bass! The contrast between the verse/chorus section is very dramatic IMO.

 
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"Click bait" to me implies an old term called "bait and switch". The concept being you are enticed by the promise of something not delivered, but are instead steered toward selling you on something else (product, or in this case an idea) you aren't interested in. IMO, the content here delivers on the title. We can debate the merits of his list, but that is a different thing. Again, IMO.
 
Good grief, not you, Beato!

LOL, ok, cool. Because this is first thread I've originate in months so I was like, wha?

I don't think Beato is a master of clickbait. I love his content and it's legit. Yes, he's trying to attract clicks like anybody marketing him or herself on line. He makes a living that way. Clickbait to me tries to draw you in and then the content is BS.
 
What impressed me most over the years with him is actually his son. His son has an insane level of perfect pitch.
That kid is scary! :)
Beato said his infant son heard a lot of Jazz & Modern Classical...unpredictable sounds vs. 4-chord stuff. :)

I like your avatar...that is a nice Pop album by Swing Out Sister. "Somewhere In The World" is great!
 
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Good video
Sometimes I agree with him, sometimes, not, but it's not a waste of time to check out his stuff.

that 3rds & 5ths stuff explains why I often don't play those intervals after trying them, and not liking what I hear.
 
What impressed me most over the years with him is actually his son. His son has an insane level of perfect pitch.

I don't know much about perfect pitch but I also don't see what's impressive about it. Perfect pitch is a party trick. "That's a Bb" is not a musical skill.

Is his perfect pitch in A440? What happens if the instruments are tuned to each other instead of a pitch? Is the music unlistenable because it's not falling into the right slots?