I ordered some Hipshot Ultralites for my Warwick Thumb and decided to order a set for my SKB as well. Can I expect any disadvantages tone-wise on the Roscoe?
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Roscoe Club
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Fortunately, the amp did the swan dive as I was packing after the gig. I guess the floor being concrete didn't help to cushion the short fall. When I got it home and took it out of the obviously non-protective, protective bag, I tilted the unit around and heard something was loose inside. So, after removing the amp from the cabinet and opening the chassis I found two white plastic nuts that popped off the board's mounting and this (below) little metallic piece. I was able to locate where on the board the two of 6 white plastic nuts and the little piece came from, but was a bit overwhelmed that these things broke off from such short 27'' fall in a padded bag!! My guess is that the board has too much weight on it to be secured by the plastic mounting post and nuts used. Now I'm like, what else is not right with this amp from the fall.
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Fortunately, the amp did the swan dive as I was packing after the gig. I guess the floor being concrete didn't help to cushion the short fall. When I got it home and took it out of the obviously non-protective, protective bag, I tilted the unit around and heard something was loose inside. So, after removing the amp from the cabinet and opening the chassis I found two white plastic nuts that popped off the board's mounting and this (below) little metallic piece. I was able to locate where on the board the two of 6 white plastic nuts and the little piece came from, but was a bit overwhelmed that these things broke off from such short 27'' fall in a padded bag!! My guess is that the board has too much weight on it to be secured by the plastic mounting post and nuts used. Now I'm like, what else is not right with this amp from the fall.
Well, fortunately this didn't affect your gig... but...
Yikes that's a really crummy situation. I think that thing is a surface mounted resistor (possibly other component). I'm wondering if Demeter would be willing to help you out. I'm not surprised that the shock of a hard floor hit broke something, though I think we (speaking generally of the music industry) need to be able to design something a little more durable. Keep us posted, I'm really bummed out for you!
I talked to James Demeter about it and decided to ship it to him for repair as opposed to giving it to some local electronics shop here in Atlanta. He did say that using the plastic mounts was not the best thing to use but it was better than using metal. I guess! He also added that he has never heard of this happening to one of his Bass 400 amps. Lucky me, I'm the first!! 
So, what happened to the look of our Talkbass pages while I was away for a few hours?? I don't recall making any changes to the view appearances??
Good, let`s hope that`s the outcome. That`s why I bought them for the Thumb bass, it`s a baseball-bat-neck-diving-great-sounding Warwick!
I talked to James Demeter about it and decided to ship it to him for repair as opposed to giving it to some local electronics shop here in Atlanta. He did say that using the plastic mounts was not the best thing to use but it was better than using metal. I guess! He also added that he has never heard of this happening to one of his Bass 400 amps. Lucky me, I'm the first!!
Cool. Let’s see ....3 months to build up an on-board pre .... he ought to get the repair done and the amp returned by your New Year’s Eve gig!
Cool. Let’s see ....3 months to build up an on-board pre .... he ought to get the repair done and the amp returned by your New Year’s Eve gig!
Sounds about right!!! I do have a backup, but I'm hoping to have it back in record time, and I'm sure I don't know what record time is in the land of Demeter.Just kidding Ray! I'm sure that James will turn it around in a timely manner.
Back to flat wounds on a Roscoe ........
I installed the TI Jazz Flats on the Roscoe STD JB and did an A/B test on playing over the same tune, the ABB's song Mellisa. I always like the sound of the bass on that tune and thought that it would be a good one to record. The bass is pretty hot in the mix but I wanted to be able to hear the sound of the strings.
There wasn't as much difference as I would have thought (originally) but IMO one does have a bit more of a low end muted sound. Not totally sure which I prefer though.
See if you can guess which recording is the EB Cobalt flats and which is the TI Jazz Flats and let me know which one you prefer (and your opinion might be "install the Nickel RW's "
).
Back to flat wounds on a Roscoe ........
I installed the TI Jazz Flats on the Roscoe STD JB and did an A/B test on playing over the same tune, the ABB's song Mellisa. I always like the sound of the bass on that tune and thought that it would be a good one to record. The bass is pretty hot in the mix but I wanted to be able to hear the sound of the strings.
There wasn't as much difference as I would have thought (originally) but IMO one does have a bit more of a low end muted sound. Not totally sure which I prefer though.
See if you can guess which recording is the EB Cobalt flats and which is the TI Jazz Flats and let me know which one you prefer (and your opinion might be "install the Nickel RW's "
).
I'm gonna say I like Mellisa 1 a bit more, and I think Mellisa 1 is the TIs and Mellisa 2 is the EBs. I like the flats sound you'e got going with the JB locations.
The TI Flats are Mellisa I.
I was a bit surprised that they sounded so similar. When I first installed them I really thought that the EB Cobalts sounded a bit more between the Nickel RW and a traditional flat but the TI's definitely record and sound very similar.
From a feel standpoint I might prefer the TI's a bit more, although after having the EB Cobalts on for a couple weeks they started feeling a bit smoother to my hands. They felt a bit tacky when I first installed them but that seemed to go away after I played them for a while.
Not sure which string I prefer. I do think that the TI exemplifies what I expect a flatwound string to sound like.
Of course, if it matters, the TI Jazz flats are $115.00
and the EB Cobalts flats are $45.00 .
I was a bit surprised that they sounded so similar. When I first installed them I really thought that the EB Cobalts sounded a bit more between the Nickel RW and a traditional flat but the TI's definitely record and sound very similar.
From a feel standpoint I might prefer the TI's a bit more, although after having the EB Cobalts on for a couple weeks they started feeling a bit smoother to my hands. They felt a bit tacky when I first installed them but that seemed to go away after I played them for a while.
Not sure which string I prefer. I do think that the TI exemplifies what I expect a flatwound string to sound like.
Of course, if it matters, the TI Jazz flats are $115.00
and the EB Cobalts flats are $45.00 .
@JOME77
Both sounded great as those are my favorite 2 Flats. I would think from experience the Melissa II is the TI Flats as they sound fatter to me and that normally is what I experienced with TI Flats.
Both sounded great as those are my favorite 2 Flats. I would think from experience the Melissa II is the TI Flats as they sound fatter to me and that normally is what I experienced with TI Flats.
So, the prior Sunday I played the MV5, which has the single coil 'J's and TI Flats on it. A lot of booming bottom! I made an iPad recording but the organ's Leslie is right next to me so it's not a very good representation of how it sat in the house mix, although even from it you can certainly hear the bass.
I always ask my wife what did the choir/music sound like and how was the bass. She told me she could hear it, but the organ was too loud!
This past Sunday I finally took the LG Buckeye Burl with Barts and D'Addario XL 170-5. From my perspective all amp volume/EQ were the same as with the MV5, however, the positive comments/reactions received from the organist, the drummer, my wife, the minister, and from the congregation was that THAT's the bass right there!! My wife said that bass was really rocking it and she could hear the bass very well, but the volume wasn't loud, and what ever I did I need to do that every Sunday!!
My take-away is that the Roscoe sits better in the house mix than the MV5. Oh, and always take a Roscoe with D'Addario to the gig!!
So, the prior Sunday I played the MV5, which has the single coil 'J's and TI Flats on it. A lot of booming bottom! I made an iPad recording but the organ's Leslie is right next to me so it's not a very good representation of how it sat in the house mix, although even from it you can certainly hear the bass.
I always ask my wife what did the choir/music sound like and how was the bass. She told me she could hear it, but the organ was too loud!
This past Sunday I finally took the LG Buckeye Burl with Barts and D'Addario XL 170-5. From my perspective all amp volume/EQ were the same as with the MV5, however, the positive comments/reactions received from the organist, the drummer, my wife, the minister, and from the congregation was that THAT's the bass right there!! My wife said that bass was really rocking it and she could hear the bass very well, but the volume wasn't loud, and what ever I did I need to do that every Sunday!!
My take-away is that the Roscoe sits better in the house mix than the MV5. Oh, and always take a Roscoe with D'Addario to the gig!!
Definitely a good idea to bring 2 basses to the gig. One with flats and one with RW.
This past Sunday I finally took the LG Buckeye Burl with Barts and D'Addario XL 170-5.
My take-away is that the Roscoe sits better in the house mix than the MV5. Oh, and always take a Roscoe with D'Addario to the gig!!
Yep. I tried flats very briefly but went back to rounds, and then D'Addario 170's with the .130 B string. I think a Roscoe with Barts and those strings is the Roscoe sound...to me.
That's why you need to purchase that used Roscoe STD P/J model .............One with flats and one with XL170's.
The Roscoe sound can be more than one sound ........
.... or you could just go for a P-Bass!
