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Rush Limbaugh and the Rams

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Turock said:
Kinda reminds me of the days when a business owner could deny someone services or goods based on things like beliefs or skin color.
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While I think Limbaugh should be allowed to be a part of the sale equating a guy worth hundreds of millions of dollars not being allowed to purchase a share in an NFL team to institutionalized racism or segregation is beyond a stretch.

There are 32 NFL teams and unlike other sports, the way the league is structured means EVERY team makes money every year. There are more people/groups that want to buy teams than there are teams. For instance, former 49ers Steve Young and Brent Jones have long been the face of a group with the money and willingness to buy the Niners, but with no luck. Point being, the NFL (or rather the owners) get to choose who gets to own teams.

And as pointed out before, this is a money decision. I'd be shocked if there weren't a majority of owners that voted the same way Limbaugh does. It isn't his political views - it's that he is a divisive figure and they must think that's bad for business.
 
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Jared Lash said:
While I think Limbaugh should be allowed to be a part of the sale equating a guy worth hundreds of millions of dollars not being allowed to purchase a share in an NFL team to institutionalized racism or segregation is beyond a stretch.

There are 32 NFL teams and unlike other sports, the way the league is structured means EVERY team makes money every year. There are more people/groups that want to buy teams than there are teams. For instance, former 49ers Steve Young and Brent Jones have long been the face of a group with the money and willingness to buy the Niners, but with no luck. Point being, the NFL (or rather the owners) get to choose who gets to own teams.

And as pointed out before, this is a money decision. I'd be shocked if there weren't a majority of owners that voted the same way Limbaugh does. It isn't his political views - it's that he is a divisive figure and they must think that's bad for business.
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There was a report released just last week that showed that NFL owners donate significantly more to the Republican Party than they do to the Democrats. The rejection of Limbaugh is certainly not about his politics.
 
#87
Jared Lash said:
equating a guy worth hundreds of millions of dollars not being allowed to purchase a share in an NFL team to institutionalized racism or segregation is beyond a stretch.

There are 32 NFL teams and unlike other sports, the way the league is structured means EVERY team makes money every year. There are more people/groups that want to buy teams than there are teams. For instance, former 49ers Steve Young and Brent Jones have long been the face of a group with the money and willingness to buy the Niners, but with no luck. Point being, the NFL (or rather the owners) get to choose who gets to own teams.

And as pointed out before, this is a money decision. I'd be shocked if there weren't a majority of owners that voted the same way Limbaugh does. It isn't his political views - it's that he is a divisive figure and they must think that's bad for business.
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#88
Dr. Cheese said:
The flipside is that the NFL does not have to let Rush into their club. Concern about their image or possible labor trouble are legitimate concerns. What do you guys think?
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I listen to Rush daily. I like him. Over the last few days, he's pointed this out. No one but the NFL and the Ram's owners will decide whether the sale goes through.

He's only one of a group of people bidding for ownership. If at any time the Rams decide not to accept the bid, that's it. Done. It also would probably not be the last time Rush had a chance to bid on an NFL team.

The controversy came in when people started using quotes off of a wiki site, meaning it can be edited by anyone, anytime, to call him a rascist. Since this IS a hot-button issue, and one which had the potential to affect his livelihood, he's publicly, and privately, asked for citations and retractions where necessary, or else the libel suits will follow.

That's it. That's all. He's been misquoted (according to him) as a rascist, and demands a retraction since he knows this could affect the decision of the NFL to take up his group's bid. He's been called a rascist many times before, and though he's said on his show multiple times over the years that it bothers him, he's never taken legal action. This may just be the first time it's had a direct affect on both his pocketbook and a childhood dream, causing him to act when before he'd just blow it off.

I think it's interesting, personally, that so many people have crawled out of the sports-journalist woodwork to comment. I've been listening to his show for decades now, and don't perceive him as a rascist; I wonder about the motivations of anyone who has misquoted him. Does disagreement with his political philosophy really lead so many people to immediately cry, "rascist!" to prevent him from accomplishing something? The fact that most commentators on daytime and evening news shows take this statement at face value rather than providing sources says more about them than Rush, I think.
 
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Turock said:
Kinda reminds me of the days when a business owner could deny someone services or goods based on things like beliefs or skin color.
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Dude! No way! I was denied the right to buy a ****ing beer, because I was at the wrong door and it wasn't that long ago. Lush Hemhaw having a little difficulty spending his millions isn't comparable.
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#92
WalterBush said:
Does disagreement with his political philosophy really lead so many people to immediately cry, "rascist!" to prevent him from accomplishing something?
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This is what's going on.

Okay, so maybe he goes a little overboard with his analogies from time to time. Maybe you don't like his sense of humor. Fine. He's no racist, and he's no criminal.

In his more somber and serious moments, Rush Limbaugh promotes the spirit of human achievement over entitlements. He has lost patience with the career victims of this country living off the efforts of the hard-working achievers. He believes anyone, regardless of their race, ethnic background, or family history, can be independant, productive, and prosperous. He doesn't apply this thought to any one race, but all races equally. He believes the days of hand outs and quotas should be over. They were once necessary, have served their purpose, and society has changed for the better as a result.

He has lots of factual data to support his belief.

But not everyone gets it, and in fact, some are so offended by Limbaugh's ideals that they feel the urge to label him with a libelous term that has been so distorted and misused over time that most people don't even know what it means any more.

I hope he sues the shirts off everyone who defames him in this manner. Enough is enough already.
 
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electracoyote said:
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This is what's going on.

Okay, so maybe he goes a little overboard with his analogies from time to time. Maybe you don't like his sense of humor. Fine. He's no racist, and he's no criminal.

In his more somber and serious moments, Rush Limbaugh promotes the spirit of human achievement over entitlements. He has lost patience with the career victims of this country living off the efforts of the hard-working achievers. He believes anyone, regardless of their race, ethnic background, or family history, can be independant, productive, and prosperous. He doesn't apply this thought to any one race, but all races equally. He believes the days of hand outs and quotas should be over. They were once necessary, have served their purpose, and society has changed for the better as a result.

He has lots of factual data to support his belief.

But not everyone gets it, and in fact, some are so offended by Limbaugh's ideals that they feel the urge to label him with a libelous term that has been so distorted and misused over time that most people don't even know what it means any more.

I hope he sues the shirts off everyone who defames him in this manner. Enough is enough already.
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We get it. You like Rush. That is your God-given right too.:)
The point of this thread is not the virtue of his beliefs, or the lack thereof. The thread, as I envisioned it, was about him owning a NFL team. IMO, discussion of his views is plainly political, and off topic.
 
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Turock said:
:bawl:
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What I meant by :bawl: was, poor little victim Rush. I feel so sorry for him.

Not.

Nobody is proposing that he be subjected to discrimination based on a protected status such as religion. His relationship with his existing media business is not of a "non-essential personal" nature. He represents a business whose interests could conflict with the NFL. Suppose, for instance that something happens in the NFL that is newsworthy. What's he going to say about it on his show? It's up to the business people to decide whether such a relationship is appropriate.

But on the other hand, he can buy the entire NFL for all I care.
 
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