Most of the time that I've done direct shootouts where there has been a difference, it's still really subject stuff. I did a shootout of Traynor heads and Ampeg 810 cabs with chillerthanmost, my YBA-2 and modern 810 and his YBA-3 and flatback 810. Both heads through the same cabs, both cabs with the same heads. There were differences, we measured SPL levels, listened at different settings, but I wouldn't say it was anywhere close to night and day. That's my interpretation, if you were down to trying to squeeze 2 or 3 dB out of a cab or being able to get one more extreme amp setting out of either one, maybe it would be a huge difference to someone. Some things are just apples and oranges too. That's how I view the Dually vs my 810. Head to head with another ported 215 you can compare subtleties, but against completely different cabs it's just...different.
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S/D Bassists #87 - A New Gear Argument
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Most of the time that I've done direct shootouts where there has been a difference, it's still really subject stuff. I did a shootout of Traynor heads and Ampeg 810 cabs with chillerthanmost, my YBA-2 and modern 810 and his YBA-3 and flatback 810. Both heads through the same cabs, both cabs with the same heads. There were differences, we measured SPL levels, listened at different settings, but I wouldn't say it was anywhere close to night and day. That's my interpretation, if you were down to trying to squeeze 2 or 3 dB out of a cab or being able to get one more extreme amp setting out of either one, maybe it would be a huge difference to someone. Some things are just apples and oranges too. That's how I view the Dually vs my 810. Head to head with another ported 215 you can compare subtleties, but against completely different cabs it's just...different.
Yeah it's usually high end bourbon on the rocks. I don't got the spare cash to play in their circle but they helped me build a nice stereo with older gear for not too much cash either. The one dude even buys the hand made cables from Maple Shade and a vintage tube amp modded up by Maple Shade, pretty killer stuff!
Thats the thing, I'd need to try a fearful cab before I buy, see if I like it and it does what I want it to do. Hey Ron!
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JMac sent me a little video of him diddling on his 15/6 when I said I have no clue how a fearful sounds just how a dually and bassic sounds. I didn't find it sterile or high fi, just open, full, and clear.
Just saying we need to do a show or GTG so I can drool all over, I mean try out, your gear.
It's supposed to drop drastically again in the next couple days. Weather Service said on the radio something like 40 degrees below normal around Wisconsin and Minnesota.
I'm ready! Everyone is complaining about this winter, I love it. The last winters have been cake walks and people forgot what a real Wisconsin winter is like.
I'm in the same boat, although i'm sure the winter here isn't quite as brutal as where you are. Thankfully, i got a break from the office today, since i had to go to a training session.
I finished my paper 30 minutes from due, sleeping and working in mini shifts isn't the best method... Also I got some kinda mini sickness from trees and Mexican food in the middle of my writing and squirted and spewed for a bit into the night.
I did a bunch of pedals and basses with the same amp and cab. I could compare the 810 and Dually. It would be a less than ideal comparison though, because mic placement can make significant differences in sound. Keeping the same cab and mic in one place and changing the bass, pedal or amp comes across as a lot more useful comparison.
Those Black Widows are amazing. I absolutely have to have them in my rig. Everything else I have is just for practice.
I've destroyed too many to be comfortable cranking them. They sure do sound sweet though.
If I destroy the ones that are in my cab, I am reconing with 1504s. They have twice the xmax of the 1502s (most BWs have these).
