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S.U.B. Club

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I still have mine even after I got a Stingray ( Its back there in the background looking all 70s disco with the mirror guard)

Every time I feel like selling I play it and then slap myself for being so stupid. It sounds so different than my 3 band Stingray. That 2 band sounds so beefy and meaty.
 
I still have mine even after I got a Stingray

Every time I feel like selling I play it and then slap myself for being so stupid. It sounds so different than my 3 band Stingray. That 2 band sounds so beefy and meaty.

Good man. It's looking great in that color with the white pg! Can we get a mass buy of suitable pickguards somehow? Must be dozens of us with subs needing stingray guards.... A bunch of white or swirly colored ones

I really think 2 band and 3 band are so unique sounding that they both have a place in the serious bassist's arsenal. I too with sbmm rays were the real thing like our ebmm slo subs are. Feel and tone vary so much between those sbmm rays I've played.... One good one like a us ray, 3 that remind me of olp. That is my experience so far out of 4 played, but it's a guess since I hear most bass strings altering the tinge compared to my choice of drs.
 
Aha!
So... series vs. parallel, as we were discussing a few days ago.

My early SUB (2003) is wired in series.
A couple others I have seen, both 2003, were wired in series too.
All active.
Being early, the logo just said S.U.B.

My SUB5, late 2004, was wired in parallel.
I assumed 4 strings were series and 5 strings parallel.

Now, my new SUB, the purpleish "red wine vomit"... I don't know whether it's a 2005 or 2006. Previous owner removed the label with the serial number, but it has the compensated nut the headstock says "SUB Bass" (and no periods between letters", so it's definitely a late one, probably 2006.
Well, I removed the strings to clean it all well and opened it up... and it's wired in parallel!

So maybe they started out with series wiring and continued with parallel? At least the 4 string versions.
 
I decided to look at the preamp for clues about dates.
A sticker says 31 06.
The printed board says 030106
I suspect that rules out it being a 2005 model, if those labels mean something about the date that batch of preamps were made?
 

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I decided to look at the preamp for clues about dates.
A sticker says 31 06.
The printed board says 030106
I suspect that rules out it being a 2005 model, if those labels mean something about the date that batch of preamps were made?

I can imagine them putting a 2003 preamp into a 2005 bass... If that's what that date code means lol

Or it's a 2006 bass. One or the other
 
After having to sell my 78 Ray I'm tempted to get one of these... do they no longer come with the horrible industrial metal plate and textured wall finish?

They have not been made since 2006. But they are not too difficult to find in The second hand market. They all had that finish and used that horrible plate, but a lot of people removed the plates.

There is a new budget line named SUB, not by EBMM but by a licensed company overseas called confusingly Sterling by MusicMan (SBMM for short). These have nothing whatsoever to do with the EBMM SUBs that were made between 2003 and 2006.
 
So due purely to my own lack of desire and time to rebuild my graphite sub 5 fretted with TerribleLiar's seemingly brand new blue sub body, his trade deal with me is off and his end of the deal might be available again.

My apologies to him for getting his hopes up then squashing them like mosquitoes, but I love my bass as a player and tone machine and upon further consideration have concerns that a body swap with full setup required and of course the potential for neck pocket complexities will make this too much of a project.

I don't love the graphite color, but the blue isn't worth the effort for me.

Now if it was natural with spalted maple veneer I might pay for that swap!

LoL

Cheers

Anyone refinished one of these themselves? Any help or details on the process would be appreciated. Assuming I can't find a trade partner for a graphite body, I'll probably paint it, but I've never refinished anything but my deck....
 
Yes!
I'd even say that my OG SUB nails the pre-EBMM vibe.
I wish I could dig the Ray34 but it just kinda lacks something. I really like how the walnut finish one looks though. And that seafoam one.

Ok..im close to pulling the plug this Friday on either a graphite SUB or a ray 35 that's posted here on TB any chime in's on one or the other..I want a ray like bass for funk..think Mark Adams..which bass gets me closer..again I know this is subjective. .but i've never played a SUB or even a ray 34..thanks..