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Sadowsky/Warwick Announcement Video

No factory, China/Korea/Indonesia... will operate and make instruments on the level of a custom shop. That was your claim and that's what I was referring. No more, no less.
Have you checked the expensive Dingwalls? I think they compare nicely with Sadowsky Metro’s. For all I know, the Combustion’s are made in a small shop like the Japanese Metros.
 
Have you checked the expensive Dingwalls? I think they compare nicely with Sadowsky Metro’s. For all I know, the Combustion’s are made in a small shop like the Japanese Metros.

Never had a chance. But talking about Sadowsky, the Tokyo shop was an extension of the NYC shop. It really was. No factory will mimic that. That's why the Metro line will be made in the German facility. You were referring to the Metro line - this is all I responded to. Not China's capabilities, not Dingwall.... just what you said. I'd appreciate if someone responds to me - please stay on topic. Don't respond to things I didn't say, please.
 
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Don't forget upgrading 'most likely' cheap bridge and tuners. That's another $200. Why not just have them on the bass already and just upcharge. We were expecting a $1500 price point anyway.
Yeah, even Roger sounds surprised when Markus corrects him on the price. My question is, "Does there really need to be an 'entry level' Sadowsky?" Well, of course there doesn't need to be - but the market seems to have been moving increasingly towards lower-cost instruments. So if making money is the primary goal then it makes sense for Sadowsky to go into Sire territory (just don't try to make us believe that it's about anything other than profit).
 
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The key point is that Squiers don’t say Fender on the headstock.
There is definitely a contingent of the Sadowsky market that values the basses largely on account of the "exclusivity factor". Those people are not going to be pleased by the idea of their ideal Sadowsky (NYC) sharing what is essentially an identical image with an "entry level" instrument. That's one thing about USA MTDs vs the non-USA MTDs: there's absolutely no confusing one with the other.
 
There is definitely a contingent of the Sadowsky market that values the basses largely on account of the "exclusivity factor". Those people are not going to be pleased by the idea of their ideal Sadowsky (NYC) sharing what is essentially an identical image with an "entry level" instrument. That's one thing about USA MTDs vs the non-USA MTDs: there's absolutely no confusing one with the other.

Which leads me to another question, will there be some sort of mechanism in place to prevent body and neck switching?
 
I like that Roger is totally straightforward in his presentation - no BS, just being really honest about what's happening with this new deal with Warwick. Others mentioned his "selling out" as he "retires". My impression is that he just wants to go back to a small one man shop, as he was in the beginning, as he slowly winds down. Sounds, to me, like he is looking foward to the "simpler days" of his youth, in that regard. Good for him, I say.


A lot of NYC Sadowskys are in the $5-$6.5K range. The Warwick’s will max around $4.5K. That will result in a limited demand for the NYC basses built in the smaller shop.
I believe that is his goal. He's 70, and just wants to have fun now, perhaps.

Think about CLF in his later years, tinkering in his office at G&L. But in Roger's case, he will be building high quality custom instruments at a more relaxed pace than he previously has been. :cool:
 
I prefer traditional alder/ash, but definitely intrigued by the metro express at sub $800 price point.

Dang, that is a great price.
China the country you mean..?
A factory in China is perfectly capable of making basses as nice as the old Japanese Metros? The Sadowsky Tokyo shop? I don't think so, and, I don't think Roger thinks so.

Dude, we are talking about basses no rockets. Chinese people are able to build a bass with a quality of any other builder, is just matter of paying the price. There are several example of Chinese art to prove it.
 
Never had a chance. But talking about Sadowsky, the Tokyo shop was an extension of the NYC shop. It really was. No factory will mimic that. That's why the Metro line will be made in the German facility. You were referring to the Metro line - this is all I responded to. Not China's capabilities, not Dingwall.... just what you said. I'd appreciate if someone responds to me - please stay on topic. Don't respond to things I didn't say, please.

Not trying to push talkbass ruless here, or get political, but there are some consumers/members, who consider an instruments place of manufacture when purchasing. Count me in that crowd. Wouldn't matter if it was the nicest bass in the world.

I just wished the 1800-2000 Metro express was still going to be a thing. Kinda like the Warwick German Pro Series stuff.

I've played the Warwick Rockbass stuff and wasn't impressed. Not even for the price.
 
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A $900 bass isn't exactly entry level, LOL.

What's really interesting here is the power of his brand and the name.

I bet some of the people here wouldn't even sniff a bass made in China. But then Sadowsky comes along and makes a chinese-made bass and all of a sudden... the bass could be really nice... if Roger is behind it I'm sure it'll be high quality... Chinese manufacturing has improved...etc.

Do I think it diminishes his brand? Yes.

I don't think he cares. He'll make some good $$$.

I wouldn't consider one but lots of people will.
 
So...I wonder about the effect on the TYO line? Will it be no more?

Yoshi Kikuchi has/had been Roger's partner in Japan for the last 30 years and worked alongside Roger in NYC before setting up the Sadowsky Tokyo shop.

This might induce a serious case of Tokyo G.A.S. :)
 
So...I wonder about the effect on the TYO line? Will it be no more?

Yoshi Kikuchi has/had been Roger's partner in Japan for the last 30 years and worked alongside Roger in NYC before setting up the Sadowsky Tokyo shop.

This might induce a serious case of Tokyo G.A.S. :)
I could have picked up a couple of Sadowsky Tokyo basses. I passed on them because I was told that the bodies are bigger. That just seems odd to me. Maybe I was given incorrect information?
 

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