Schecter Owners Club, part 3

[mcnach]

I'll be the dissenting opinion here as I don't like most stainless strings. I tried one DR set, (I don't remember which), and thought they were ok. I've tried a few different strings with my Stiletto and the best string set was a .105 set of NYXLs. I despise normal Daddarios. The hunt still continues because in 55-110 it is hard to find string sets. I like Ni strings though.

It's ok to disagree... what a boring place TalkBass would be otherwise

DR makes both stainless and nickel. I actually seem to gravitate towards DR Fat Beams (stainless) on most basses, certainly the Stingray, or DR Sunbeams (nickel) which are not a million miles away in terms of feel and sound like a little mellower Fatbeams to me that have been used a bit, which suits me as I *hate* stainless strings when I put a new set: the bright zing is a bit much, but thankfully it goes away soon leaving a really nice tone (for my liking) behind that lasts for ages. Even with the extra zing it works live very well as long as I remove a bit of the top.

I'm curious about the NYXLs, I keep hearing good things about them, but they're not particularly cheap so the couple of times I was tempted... I ended up getting my usual DRs instead. One day!

Newtone is a UK brand that I've also been hearing great things about. They're a small company but they seem to be gaining a lot of traction. They'd do any custom gauges you want as well, so it may be worth contacting them with your requirements. They do hex or round core, stainless and nickel... just ask.

 

[mcnach]

I appreciate the input. I was impetuous though and already ordered the DRs.

I hope you're not disappointed! It's always risky buying things based on other people's preferences!

If you did go for the Fat Beams... do give them a couple of weeks of regular play before giving up. I find them a bit too bright initially and not remarkable. I mean, they're good sounding from day 1 but The Good Stuff comes after a little play, for me. The zing dies off a little and it starts settling into a mellower but very rich sound with a little use, and stays there for a long time.

 

[EdBo]

I hope you're not disappointed! It's always risky buying things based on other people's preferences!

If you did go for the Fat Beams... do give them a couple of weeks of regular play before giving up. I find them a bit too bright initially and not remarkable. I mean, they're good sounding from day 1 but The Good Stuff comes after a little play, for me. The zing dies off a little and it starts settling into a mellower but very rich sound with a little use, and stays there for a long time.

Hi-Beams don't mellow for me hardly at all after install and they keep that full bright tone longer than any non-coated strings I've used for over 30 years. I will admit I do stretch them a bit on install out of habit. The only difference I can find on DR's description about the Fat-Beams & the Hi-Beams is that the Fat-Beams are Compression wound. Both are Stainless Roundwounds on a round core.
After listening to the Demo's on DR's website, I may try the Fat-Beams. In the Demo it does sound like they have a bit more of that Low-Midrange we all love.
I use that extra zing on top to fill under guitar solo's in the 3 pc setting.

 

[deff]

I should say that regarding my string choice it is probably at least a little unusual. I play in a hardcore band and there is always some pretty heavy distortion. I need a string that will stay cutting on the upper mids and not get muddy in order to be heard. I choose strings for the Stiletto based on what sounds best with my setup, which isn't the average bass rig.

 

[lucas303]

Thanks @EdBo @DiscoRiceJ and others for the string recommendations. I installed the DR Fat Beams last night and so far so good. This was also my first time swapping strings, so that was a cool little milestone.

Next I'm going to try to fine-tune the action a bit more...I want to see if I can get away with having the action lower than it is now.

 

[EdBo]

DR sent me a set of White Neons for my dUg Bass today. I'm loving them !

 

[theduke1]

DR sent me a set of White Neons for my dUg Bass today. I'm loving them !View attachment 3422596

Can you tell my the gage?
My new Session ModelT 5 string uses .40-.120 gage
Thanks
Duke

 

[EdBo]

Can you tell my the gage?
My new Session ModelT 5 string uses .40-.120 gage
Thanks
Duke

PT# Guage's
*DR, Neon White, Light = NWB5-40 40,60,80,100,120

Slightly larger, Medium = NWB5-45 45,65,85,105,125

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They have other colors. I have the Black Beauties on 4 of my Basses. They all sound great

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If you have anymore questions Duke, please ask.


**Peace**

Eddie

 

[theduke1]

PT# Guage's
*DR, Neon White, Light = NWB5-40 40,60,80,100,120

Slightly larger, Medium = NWB5-45 45,65,85,105,125

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They have other colors. I have the Black Beauties on 4 of my Basses. They all sound great

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If you have anymore questions Duke, please ask.


**Peace**

Eddie

I replaced the round wounds that came on it with Flats as I never liked rounds
My G&Ls are strung with LaBella Black Nylon tapes but the gage is too large for the Model T
Thanks for the information

 

[deff]

PT# Guage's
*DR, Neon White, Light = NWB5-40 40,60,80,100,120

Slightly larger, Medium = NWB5-45 45,65,85,105,125

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They have other colors. I have the Black Beauties on 4 of my Basses. They all sound great

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If you have anymore questions Duke, please ask.


**Peace**

Eddie

The white ones are cool. .120 for a B string seems on the border of being too thin. I assume you are standard tuning? I have a .115 for the low string on my 4 string D,G,C,F

 

[EdBo]

The white ones are cool. .120 for a B string seems on the border of being too thin. I assume you are standard tuning? I have a .115 for the low string on my 4 string D,G,C,F

theduke1 was asking about the .040 to .120 White Neon DR's.
I sold my last 5 string 5 years ago after playing 5er's exclusively for over 20 years and prefered a .130 B string. A .120 is a bit light IMO, even in standard. I've always been a quite aggressive in my playing style but, some people have a very light and accurate style. I know someone who plays an Extra Long(35") 4 string in drop C and uses .040 to .100's. I couldn't do it.
**Peace**

 

[Kev1955]

So my first post in this group, but just finished upgrading my Model T bass, didn’t take much but really turned out well.
Put a stacked EMG BTC preamp in and went to Two Volume knobs, got rid of the blend. put EMG Geezer Butler set in. Installed labella through body flats on. Turned out really good great balance of attack and warmth.

 

[theduke1]

So my first post in this group, but just finished upgrading my Model T bass, didn’t take much but really turned out well.
Put a stacked EMG BTC preamp in and went to Two Volume knobs, got rid of the blend. put EMG Geezer Butler set in. Installed labella through body flats on. Turned out really good great balance of attack and warmth.
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What Gage LaBella strings did you use and where did you get them?
But I see you have a 4, mine is a 5
Thanks
Duke

 

[Kev1955]

What Gage LaBella strings did you use and where did you get them?
But I see you have a 4, mine is a 5
Thanks
Duke

Mine are 45-105 make sure they are through body, I buy them online, Usually juststrings online, can search them on eBay and google also hope that helps

 

[Kev1955]

DR sent me a set of White Neons for my dUg Bass today. I'm loving them !View attachment 3422596

WOW some awesome looking basses

 

[Brian Crawford]

So my first post in this group, but just finished upgrading my Model T bass, didn’t take much but really turned out well.
Put a stacked EMG BTC preamp in and went to Two Volume knobs, got rid of the blend. put EMG Geezer Butler set in. Installed labella through body flats on. Turned out really good great balance of attack and warmth.
View attachment 3423183

Nice all my pj basses get the geezer's and my jazz's get the jv52's.

 

[lucas303]

I hope you're not disappointed! It's always risky buying things based on other people's preferences!

If you did go for the Fat Beams... do give them a couple of weeks of regular play before giving up. I find them a bit too bright initially and not remarkable. I mean, they're good sounding from day 1 but The Good Stuff comes after a little play, for me. The zing dies off a little and it starts settling into a mellower but very rich sound with a little use, and stays there for a long time.

I've fine-tuned my action and the initial "zing" of the Fat Beams has worn off. I didn't dislike the sound of the Fat Beams out of the box, but they do noticeably mellow a bit. Now that they've "matured" somewhat, I do find a nice punch to the low mids like @mcnach said. I can't really compare them to much else, though, because I've only used the flats I previously had on it and the stock strings. I'm pretty happy with how the instrument sounds right now...I find myself wanting almost no EQ, and I don't even feel like messing with effects because the clean sound is really nice (I only practice at home though so I'm not trying to fit into a band mix).

I still haven't decided if I want to focus on four-string or five-string, but as things stand I don't really feel like I'm lacking anything in the four-string department with my Schecter (my five-string is a Dean, fwiw).

Thanks again for the input guys.

 

[TexasThunder]

Question about the Omen and Omen Extreme. I'm really digging the specs of this bass, however, have not had a chance to play one yet. My question is about some of the reviews I've read on tonal sound. Many say these are suited to hard rock or metal, with an emphasis on the metal. I play a lot of blues, blues-rock, country, and praise/worship at church. One review specifically said if 'you are looking for a classic bluesy or rock sound, this isn't for you'. And then others say it's extremely versatile.

Can anyone here shed some light on these statements and/or offer your experienced opinions? Admittedly, I have not been playing bass very long so I apologize if there is a remedial answer that I'm not aware of.

If this helps at all...I currently own two different basses. A G&L Tribute Jazz and an Ibanez SR670 - very different guitars. And to my ears, both sound great for anything I play.

Thanks in advance.

 

[deff]

Question about the Omen and Omen Extreme. I'm really digging the specs of this bass, however, have not had a chance to play one yet. My question is about some of the reviews I've read on tonal sound. Many say these are suited to hard rock or metal, with an emphasis on the metal. I play a lot of blues, blues-rock, country, and praise/worship at church. One review specifically said if 'you are looking for a classic bluesy or rock sound, this isn't for you'. And then others say it's extremely versatile.

Can anyone here shed some light on these statements and/or offer your experienced opinions? Admittedly, I have not been playing bass very long so I apologize if there is a remedial answer that I'm not aware of.

If this helps at all...I currently own two different basses. A G&L Tribute Jazz and an Ibanez SR670 - very different guitars. And to my ears, both sound great for anything I play.

Thanks in advance.

Hmm, while I have little experience with the Omen, the basic shape of the omen is the same as the SLS. The SLS has Fishman Fluence and preamp system and will cover just about everything you could imagine. The Omen is maybe a bit misunderstood. The Schecter Diamond pickups are nice, but modern sounding. There are plenty of youtube sound samples, but I wouldn't say that the pickups are that hot as to be always grindy or anything. You should check out Rodney McG's review of the SLS on YT

 

[TexasThunder]

Just got back from a local store that had an Omen Extreme in stock. Played it for about an hour and I really like it a lot. I'm really not understanding some of the reviews I've read about it. To my ears it sounded fantastic. Going back tomorrow to 'wheel and deal' on it.