Larry Kaye said:
Thanks Larry. I have the Schroeder 410 and 1212 and used them together at an outdoor gig with my WT 550....lots of body and punch.
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Schroeder Cabinets ... smart design = very compact ! (regular and lights)
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Thanks Larry. I have the Schroeder 410 and 1212 and used them together at an outdoor gig with my WT 550....lots of body and punch.
I bet those do sound great together (kind of like a pair of 21012, but different).Steve S said:
SMASH said:
I owned 2 Aguilar GS112's and my Schroeder 2x12 blows the Aguilar cabinets away. Tone, power, portability...Jorg has something very special here.
Well my fellow TBers, I have finally finshed with my Schroeder aquisitions for now. I decided to go with the 1210 and the 1212. I will use one for most gigs, two for the bigger gigs. I did not end up keeping the 21012 I think the 1212 and 1210 go togther perfectly. The 21012 is an awesome cab, but I can get what I need from the medium cabs just as well. So far I really like the way the Schroeder cabs sound with my HI-FI gear. these cabs really tame the sound of my SWR SM-500. I have never heard this head sound so good. It was always too glassy combined with the SWR cabs. I took one of my cabs to the bass place and plugged an Eden WT550 into it, WOW.. I am thinking of going with an Eden Navigator, QSC PLX 1602 (500 watts per side @ 4 ohms) and my 1212 and 1210. Does anyone have this setup. Can I asume that the pre- amp will behave like the eden heads ( WT 800, WT 550) that I tried out with my cabs?
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seansbrew said:
I think at least a few people have the Nav pre at least, if not the same amp spec (which doesn't really matter much) and love it combined with the Schros. I'd love a Mini12 Airhead and throw in a small Eden right there. Hot!!
I use a Navigator with my 3101212. Its been a while since I compared the Nav to a normal Eden head, but they definetly have the same charachter and it definetly works with the Schroeder.
Nick man said:
What amp are using then? I've got a plx1602 bridged into my 3101212, but an ampeg pre and outboard compressor setup. I need a different pre one of these days, but funds aren't looking good for that. I'd also like to go to a 2402 just for that little extra bit of headroom
el_Kabong said:
el Kabong, The 1212 gives this setup plenty of bottom while the 410 provides the punch. I've always gone through the PA when outside but with this rig, I didn't need it. My drummer said that it's the best sound that I've ever gotten and I've had the Berg HT/EX 112s, Aggie GS 112s and a couple of Bag End S15Ds. This setup sounds much fuller than any of the others.
Inside, I just use the 1212 with a four piece band and the 410 with an 8 piece although the 1212 can handle the larger band too. I just like the additional punch when playing with horns.
Im using a PLX 3402.troll said:What amp are using then? I've got a plx1602 bridged into my 3101212, but an ampeg pre and outboard compressor setup. I need a different pre one of these days, but funds aren't looking good for that. I'd also like to go to a 2402 just for that little extra bit of headroom
I also use a Sansamp RBI for some serious overdrive.
Well an update for anyone who was there. My Band [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] just played 2 major festivals in Up-State Wisconsin. Grateful Garcia Gathering and Farmapalooza. My Schroeder Mini-12 and 1212 took to the stage like troopers. The held their own on giant stages with a brilliance and tone far beyone all the rest of the amp/speaker combo's. In other words - THESE SPEAKERS KICKED ASS 
.When I showed up with my little 3x12 system, the sound crews thouhgt I was nuts until I had to turn down because my stage volume was too loud!!! WOW That was cool!!!
.When I showed up with my little 3x12 system, the sound crews thouhgt I was nuts until I had to turn down because my stage volume was too loud!!! WOW That was cool!!!
Chef
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Three jobs again this last weekend. Two upright gigs. Did one with the wt800b, and one with the TFB420-which is still my current fav due to the wider eq options. Both jobs were awesome, and the 1210 definitely packs the omnipresence of the Schroeder 410 on stage that I had hoped for in the smaller box!
The third was a pickup gig for a rock band with an ill bass player. First "electric only" job I've done in a long time. Bigger venue, but I took the 1210 anyway as I knew the club has a good front line. Loud band, loud drummer I walked in with my 1210 and my TFB420, and I think they thought "no way is this guy keeping up." Spent an hour going thru their set-list making notes of keys and arrangements, and then did the show. The 1210 had nooo problem keeping up with two guitarists and the drummer. *I* was impressed, but they were blown away their ill bass player showed for the last part of the last set and wanted to know just exactly how the heck I was getting that kind of sound out of something that size! I smiled and explained
I looove my 1210!
Jorg, thanks for the awesome tools, my job is definately easier and more fun with
THE POWER OF SCHROEDER
on my side
Chef
The third was a pickup gig for a rock band with an ill bass player. First "electric only" job I've done in a long time. Bigger venue, but I took the 1210 anyway as I knew the club has a good front line. Loud band, loud drummer I walked in with my 1210 and my TFB420, and I think they thought "no way is this guy keeping up." Spent an hour going thru their set-list making notes of keys and arrangements, and then did the show. The 1210 had nooo problem keeping up with two guitarists and the drummer. *I* was impressed, but they were blown away their ill bass player showed for the last part of the last set and wanted to know just exactly how the heck I was getting that kind of sound out of something that size! I smiled and explained
I looove my 1210!
Jorg, thanks for the awesome tools, my job is definately easier and more fun with
THE POWER OF SCHROEDER
on my side
Chef
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seansbrew said:
Consider the PLX 2402 as it draws less power from the wall and has more headroom due its somewhat better design (only in the 2402 and up).
If you're looking for light weight, good power, & good tone, the Stewart World 2.1 is what I'd recommend (they can be found at good prices second hand if $$ is an issue).seansbrew said:
Crown Macro-Tech MA-2402 would be my top choice, but they are heavier and more expensive.
Chef
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seansbrew said:
I have this exact combo, and like it very very well. Works great with either the Scro 410 or 1210 for me...I see slombovia recommending the 2402...I have not found myself wishing for more power with the 1602, but headroom is always nice
I like the navigator well enough that when eden released the wt800b (now bridgable into 4 ohms producing ~1100 watts) I sold my mesa 400+ and bought one. The Nav has a few more features, but they are both highly recommended by me.
Combined with the Scro's they're a really great sonic combination.
Thunderfunks are another great pairing, but maybe not an option if you *really need* 2400 watts...
Ok, this weekend I played a gig in the absolute hell of acoustic venue with the Schroeder 410, Acoustic Image Focus 600, and a DoD 31 band eq between my bass and the input on the 600.
With the focus preamp set at 10 o'clock (off is 7 o'clock) and my master volume at just over 9 o'clock, I was as loud if not not louder than anything else on stage. The sound guy pulled me entirely out of the pa. He said the bass was clean, clear, and punchy, yet had a ton of bottom (the room's acoustics)...I had the bass flat on the amp, eq, and a little cut on my bass and just cranked the focus up slightly, and it was great. Everyone in the band heard me, the pool playing audience heard me loud and clear, the owner heard me, the chefs heard me.
But best yet, I heard me perfectly clear without having to put the cabinet on a crate, or table or whatever like everyone else does...
So the 410 is heavy, but it's as advertised in my book. I can't wait to use it in a room that sounds better.
Larrykaye
With the focus preamp set at 10 o'clock (off is 7 o'clock) and my master volume at just over 9 o'clock, I was as loud if not not louder than anything else on stage. The sound guy pulled me entirely out of the pa. He said the bass was clean, clear, and punchy, yet had a ton of bottom (the room's acoustics)...I had the bass flat on the amp, eq, and a little cut on my bass and just cranked the focus up slightly, and it was great. Everyone in the band heard me, the pool playing audience heard me loud and clear, the owner heard me, the chefs heard me.
But best yet, I heard me perfectly clear without having to put the cabinet on a crate, or table or whatever like everyone else does...
So the 410 is heavy, but it's as advertised in my book. I can't wait to use it in a room that sounds better.
Larrykaye
- Jul 15, 2003
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- I am a determined follower of Jesus Christ and am a Mormon.
In addition to the slightly higher headroom of the 2402, its output circuitry is 2-step class H as opposed to the 1602's class AB, so the 2402, despite its higher output, actually draws less from the wall. That is a plus to me. BTW, I chose a Stewart World 1.2 for its lighter weight and fanless operation but I found this difference in the PLX series when considering them.
Tom H.
(Still GASsing for a schroeder)
Tom H.
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iriegnome said:After my last 2 weekends with my Cabs, I cannot wait to add more of them
Word.
I now can't decide between a 410 and 21012... I've got a 1210 already, but gah!! Which which which...
Thanks SMASH! I'm just as sold on the cabs as I was prior to you starting this thread. I've now got 3 cabs (1210, 1212 and Mini12). I use them all together... but most things I do just the Mini12. When I use all 3 it's not for increased volume... it's just because I can 
Actually, I like the feel of playing the tubes against the all the drivers... but maybe it's just in my head.
I need to take a new picture or 2... I've been auditioning with my 100lbs tube head sitting on the Mini12
it's like playing through a little mushroom
Actually, I like the feel of playing the tubes against the all the drivers... but maybe it's just in my head.I need to take a new picture or 2... I've been auditioning with my 100lbs tube head sitting on the Mini12
it's like playing through a little mushroom
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