Schroeder Cabinets ... smart design = very compact ! (regular and lights)

[Pete skjold]

B4H, You da man! That's got to be one mutha of a system.

I hope I get to hear both those cabs with your rig next month.

If bassjam is around during the Arlington guitar show, maybe he'll let us set up in his big living room and have at it.

The full line of Schroeder cabs will be at the Arlington show

 

[Biker4Him]

excuse me while I derail this thread.

Hey Pete, gonna have any fretless's ??? I don't have one right now... and I want one really badly....

 

[Chef]

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Thanks!
I'm an idiot, and found that on Jorg's site right after I posted...They have no info on Schroeders on their website tho?

Worth, Illinois, right near Chicago...Any tb'ers in the neighborhood?

 

[bassjam]

B4H, You da man! That's got to be one mutha of a system.

I hope I get to hear both those cabs with your rig next month.

If bassjam is around during the Arlington guitar show, maybe he'll let us set up in his big living room and have at it.

hey jonn have at it.better hurry though.i have a ton of new furniture on the way.im gonna miss all the room but at least ill have a place to sit.id love to have a big jam before it gets here though.

 

[Nick man]

Hey SMASH,

How do you think one of those would match up with an overdriven 400+ or SVT?

Im thinking of picking up the 410 cab if it would work nicely.

 

[Aram]

Pretty cool Smash -- sounds sweet through my Sennheisers.

 

[James Hart]

I'll post a sound clip of some solo playing through my cab later tonight, since I don't think there've been any clips yet, and that'll be that for me. One little victory, as it were.

Sounds great SMASH! great reviews all around here!!!

BTW: I posted some gig MP3's and some from my new drummer's audition that featured my 1210 (though VERY limited sound quality).

Anyway, your clip sounds killer! What kind of strings you got on that?

 

[John D Harris]

Well, after another couple weeks of playing with the Schroeder I'm happy to say I think it's the "real deal".

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Glad you're happy with it. Congratulations!

 

[BillyB_from_LZ]

Well, quite by surprise, I got to hear some Schroeders for myself...and I liked what I heard.

I went to a guitar show on Sunday. Dan Lenard of Luthier's Access Group was there with some of the most beautiful basses I've ever seen (Jerzy Drozd, Hanewinkle, etc. (please forgive my spelling)). His audition rig was a Walter Woods head and two Schroeder cabinets a 1012 and a 1212.

I let 7 string maniac Eli do the playing while I listened. First we had the 1212 plugged in. As SMASH wrote a few posts ago, it is prett dark. I did note that the tweeter did a nice job without sounding harsh.

Next we plugged in the 1012...WOW that 10 really makes a difference!!!! It just fills in the upper mids and punches you in the face (in a good way).

If I was in a position to buy new cabinets, I'd certainly consider either a pair of 1012s or 21012s...

Dan Lenard told me that he just bought a amp/speaker switch so he'll be doing some serious A/B/C/D Schroeders against the other cabs that he sells (Accugroove and others)...

Well done Jorg!!!!

 

[James Hart]

Maybe re-post them?

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I'd never posted these here (had a "listen to my band" thread in recordings).... they are all my fretless Benavente into a Yamaha pre and Crown power and the 1210.

I'm a couple weeks away from my 1212 I'll be running a Peavey Classic 400 into the pair soon!


Your clip is much truer to the "in person" sound. I'm planning some better recording gear soon, also my new drummer is a recording hobbiest and has some cool gear for recording.


FYI: There are NAMM vid at the Benavente and Lowend sites are all through Jorgs cabinets!

Ummm ... the B is a some kind of Fender nickel with light blue silks, the E and A are GHS Boomers, the D another Fender, then back to GHS for the G. It kinda just ended-up that way and sounds proper from string to string so I never did change them to something uniform.

Cool! gear can alter it some... but the tone is in the hands huh?

 

[Nick man]

Any good cab, including these, would match up well with a great heads like those ... so long as you're careful with that volume knob. I wouldn't care to let some punk run a 400+ though my 1212, but with a 410 you should be safe. The 1212 hasn't got a problem with my Mono Block II (same power as the SVT) at levels I can stand to listen to. There's more high-end overdrive in the SVT, and I think the tone of the Schroeder & its tweeter would sound good with that. So too the 400+ though it's a warmer overall tone IMO (even more so the 410 as 410 configs tend to even out the woofy blast of the 400+ in my experience ... I know a 400+ can be run clean and clear, but c'mon eh?).

Jorg actually tests these with a 400+ before shipping them out. One hopes at moderate volumes. IMO, he's represented these cabs very fairly and if you ask him I believe you'll get a straight answer.

Yeah, thats pretty close to what I was hoping to hear. Ill probably contact Jorg when Im more ready to make a cab purchase and ask him more about the 400+ with the 410.

Peace
Nick

 

[thejohnkim]

thanks for the movies/sound clips, helps to figure out how these things sound like for those of us without the means to hear them personally. they do come off as having a dark tone that would cut through somehow.

 

[Brian Barrett]

FYI: There are NAMM vid at the Benavente and Lowend sites are all through Jorgs cabinets!

Yes, everything from NAMM are the Schroeder's either with the Acoustic Image Focus or a Crest Power amp & Kern pre.
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[EDIT] sorry I see SMASH has linked it already

 

[DDXdesign]

Hey Brian! Any ETA on *my* 1210?

=0)

Figgered I'd post it to the thread, it's a megathread after all, isn't it?

 

[JSCHRO7376]

Hey Brian! Any ETA on *my* 1210?

=0)

Figgered I'd post it to the thread, it's a megathread after all, isn't it?

Dave;
It should go out early next week.

Sincerely,

Jorg

 

[Brian Barrett]

what he said

 

[JSCHRO7376]

what he said

 

[embellisher]

OK, let me qualify this review a bit before I start.

First, I have only had the cabinet for a few weeks, and so far have only had one rehearsal. So a lot of the playing I have done through it have been in my bedroom.

Second, I just got the iAMP too, so I am learning about the capabilities of both the head and cab at the same time.

First impression: This setup is LOUD!

This is the first head and cab setup I have ever owned. I was always a 'big loud combo' guy. I had an Eden Metro for a little over a year, and while the tone left a little to be desired, the combo was loud enough for any of the gigs with my oldies band. After the Metro was stolen, I replaced it with a Peavey BAM210 combo. Louder than the Metro, much better B string handling, and IMHO better tone too.

I was happy with that rig in the oldies band. When my originals band started playing out more, I was having to push the amp a little harder. Then one night at a club I pushed it so hard it went into protect mode, right in the middle of our newest song, which centers around a tapped bass ostinato. Not cool.

I feel that this will not be a problem with the new setup. At rehearsal, I had the pre gain at 12 o'clock and the volume at about 10 o'clock. With the BAM, the drummer had a hard time hearing me, unless I turned up so loud that he had difficulty hearing the guitar.

Something about the way that the head and cab are both voiced allowed me to play at a lower volume, and still be heard.

The lows are insane with this setup! I usually boost the bass on my Nordstrand's onboard about 3 to 5 dB. I had to set it flat, because the lows were so authoritative. I did have to boost the highs a bit more, but I attribute that to the fact that the tweeter on the Schroeder is closer to the floor, and not angled up a bit like on the BAM.

The sound was very full through the entire audio spectrum. The low B was thunderous, but still retained clarity. Something that I had a big problem with on the Eden, and to a lesser extent, on the BAM. To get clarity on the lowest notes with those amps, I had to sacrifice the lows.

The EQ on the iAMP is very easy to use, and very intuitive. And presets one, three and four are voiced precisely how I would do them if I designed my own amp. One works great for bringing out the lows, three is great for fingerstyle, and 4 adds some crispness for slapping, without getting harsh. I am sure that the tweeter that Jorg uses has something to do with the lack of harshness in the highs, too.

As I said, I am still learning the capabilities of this setup, but so far, I am very impressed with the cabinet and the head. And very happy too!

I hope to post a better review after a couple of more rehearsals and a gig.

 

[MikeBass]

I looked at the cabs on Brian's site and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Tech Line do this a while back??
The cabs look almost exactly the same as the Tech Line stuff, without the silver colored speakers tho....
I'm not saying they don't sound great or are worth their cost, but from what I've seen (albeit, very little as of now), the design maybe new to Jorg, isn't new so to speak.
I hope they sound as good as you guys are saying, cause we need another good cab builder that doesn't charge an arm and a leg (yet!!).

 

[James Hart]

I looked at the cabs on Brian's site and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Tech Line do this a while back??
The cabs look almost exactly the same as the Tech Line stuff, without the silver colored speakers tho....
I'm not saying they don't sound great or are worth their cost, but from what I've seen (albeit, very little as of now), the design maybe new to Jorg, isn't new so to speak.

it's been mentioned in this thread. similar as in Eden and SWR both make front facing 4x10 with bullet horns. Jorg had a need, tested out MANY designs and found what worked for him.... I'm glad to have been able to get one (second on the way!)