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Set lists written in stone - Help!

I think that's the price you pay for joining a pre-existing band rather than doing all the work it takes to start and establish a band from ground zero.
It could be that they want you to know that this is all the gig is, or it could be that they are trying to underpromise and overdeliver so when you do get in good with them you feel a little more gratitude then you might otherwise.
 
Agreed... Maybe the singer is a one trick pony and can only sing what's on the list... I wouldn't join the band, because you'll be unhappy and they sound like tools...

But even though my band is a 100% democracy, since I'm the singer, I can veto anything and add anything... unless the others care to step up to the mic. It's not my ego... it's that I wasn't born a vocalist, so I can only sing certain things well... I have to stick to those things.

Like @two fingers said, if you can sing working man, I'm sure that they'd be receptive... on the other hand, if you can sing Working Man and play bass to it, then you shouldn't be hanging out in the TB forums and looking to join up with those tools!

Just so you know, your band is by definition 100% not a democracy then...

OP, I think it's too early to be trying to change their setlist at this time, but not too early to ask if your input would be considered in the future. Also, I'd start with something more crowd friendly than Rush - appealing to women is going to get you much farther then appealing to other musicians (minus rare exceptions)
 
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Just so you know, your band is by definition 100% not a democracy then...
Sure it is... Why wouldn't it be?

The USA is a democracy... and yet the government can and does whatever it chooses, regardless of us... However, because we could stop them if we chose to, although we never do, it's still a democracy. Unless I'm missing something.

If the guitar player suggests covering Basket Case, and the drummer votes to accept it, but I say no because I can't sing it, then the guitar player or drummer are welcome to either sing it, or suggest another tune that I can sing.

By definition; a democracy is dependent upon everyone understanding it, respecting it, and working together within it's limitations.

However, I can see how based on my statement, you might have gotten that impression. I said that I could veto a song that everyone else wanted, but only because I couldn't sing it, not because I didn't like it. There's a massive difference there.
 
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Sure it is... Why wouldn't it be?

The USA is a democracy... and yet the government can and does whatever it chooses, regardless of us... However, because we could stop them if we chose to, although we never do, it's still a democracy. Unless I'm missing something.

If the guitar player suggests covering Basket Case, and the drummer votes to accept it, but I say no because I can't sing it, then the guitar player or drummer are welcome to either sing it, or suggest another tune that I can sing.

A democracy is dependent upon everyone understanding it, respecting it, and working together within it's limitations.

However, I can see how based on my statement, you might have gotten that impression.

No. The USA is a constitutional republic. That is vastly different than a straight democracy. In a democracy you would not have veto power. Majority rules, period. Which is why I always doubt when people claim their band is a democracy - the closest I've seen it come is only doing songs if everyone agrees on them, but that's unanimity, not democracy
 
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No. The USA is a constitutional republic. That is vastly different than a straight democracy. In a democracy you would not have veto power. Majority rules, period. Which is why I always doubt when people claim their band is a democracy - the closest I've seen it come is only doing songs if everyone agrees on them, but that's unanimity, not democracy
Well I don't argue on TB, especially politics, and although I fought for our country and still do, and I retired from our government, since you seem an expert, I yield. You win. Either way, you're welcome for whatever I fought for.
 
I just enjoy playing music... if a band (as a whole) doesn’t agree on a particular song because a member isn’t capable of “performing” it, that’s a no brainer (to not play that song). But then again, there are some people in the world with “no brains”, unfortunately.
 
Was in a similar situation. Had reservations at the beginning, didn’t like the leader much or about 1/3 of what they were playing. Was assured they’d add my song suggestions soon.

Learned their book of 30-40 songs, suggested songs and kept getting put off. The leader’s #2 kept getting new songs added.

Stuck with this for 8 months ... dissatisfaction grew, I bailed out.

Proved to myself I could learn a bunch of songs I didn’t like and played them
Well enough. At the end of the day, sorry I didn’t follow my gut at the start of all this. Mostly because the Leader is a $hit.

Moved on and no regrets . Have fun with your Music .. don’t waste time
 
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When I was in this band, 3 yrs ago, I really disliked a song, Closer to home by Grand Funk, but when I learned it well it became my favorite song in the set. Yes, we can learn hated songs and prove ourselves we can do it. Our first meeting has been postponed to next weekend, and I feel that getting your voice heard is a good sign that things are going to work well. :smug: