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Show me your compact pedalboard setup

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So you’re looking to be able to combine 2 or more XLR lines together to send a single XLR to FOH ?

If that’s the case. Radial makes a 2:1 small Mixer with lebel and phase control in each out to a single XLR or There are small line mixers from Rolls or ART
And small rack mixers from ART and Behringer that could accomplish this without all the unneeded features of a full mixer. There’s also this the AV life savers passive 3 to 1 XLR Mixer that is cool as no power needed etc .. as it’s totaly passive yiundo lose some output level but this really isn’t a problem as you just turn up the Mixer Preamp a little to compensate. I’ve use this and it works well no tonal charge.

I’ve also used the Behringer Rack Mixer with good results.
 
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Yeah, I guess labeling pictures as "final board", or "final final board" is a fools game.

Final Final Final Board

Final Final Final Board

really, this is the final update to my small pedal board

Added wireless. I'm going to need to start labeling pictures by date or something. Though any more changes may require a bigger board.
 
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mapleglo said:
Yeah, I guess labeling pictures as "final board", or "final final board" is a fools game.

Final Final Final Board

Final Final Final Board

really, this is the final update to my small pedal board

Added wireless. I'm going to need to start labeling pictures by date or something. Though any more changes may require a bigger board.
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Board x.0 when you add a pedal, Board x.y when you swap a pedal?
 
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hbabels said:
So you’re looking to be able to combine 2 or more XLR lines together to send a single XLR to FOH ?

If that’s the case. Radial makes a 2:1 small Mixer with lebel and phase control in each out to a single XLR or There are small line mixers from Rolls or ART
And small rack mixers from ART and Behringer that could accomplish this without all the unneeded features of a full mixer. There’s also this the AV life savers passive 3 to 1 XLR Mixer that is cool as no power needed etc .. as it’s totaly passive yiundo lose some output level but this really isn’t a problem as you just turn up the Mixer Preamp a little to compensate. I’ve use this and it works well no tonal charge.

I’ve also used the Behringer Rack Mixer with good results.
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Thanks @hbabels, that more or less answers my question. In my initial post I was saying that my plan currently is to use a Rolls MX41B which is a passive 4 channel mixer, 4x1/4" in and 1x1/4" out, and send that to FOH. Big benefits being it is compact, doesn't require power and can use 1/4" connections to keep things compact.
My concern was that there would be a weak signal coming out, which you have confirmed that it likely would be but it is manageable. Thanks!!
 
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arca_tern said:
Wasn’t my idea, stole it from a shoe company. Haha. When they totally revamp a shoe it changes version: (2.0->3.0) but changes to only the upper (minor changes) make it a .5 (3.5)
Thought it was pretty tweakable for pedalboards
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I think this methodology has a long history and is pretty common across many fields, especially in software
 
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Rickter said:
I'm trying to figure out how to run multiple signals from my pedalboard and create a "master mix" from the pedalboard to go to my amp rig and FOH. I'm looking to have a clean signal from early in the chain and a dirty signal from further down the chain and mix the two. The question I'm trying to answer is how to go about it.

Lately I have been looking the Rolls MX41b (a passive 4 in, 1 out line level mixer) and then go out to a DI box. My other option would be to use a powered mixer such as the Rolls Invalid Link Removed that uses mic level input and output. Is the unpowered passive mixer a viable option, or not? Are there pitfalls of using that method that I am not seeing? If I go the Rolls MX310 route, then I'll need to integrate a pedalboard power supply which has a 12v option to push the mixer.

Any suggestions are appreciated.
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If you just need to blend clean and dirty, there are lots of blenders out there, they would be a lot cheaper than a mixer.
 
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Drucifer said:
If you just need to blend clean and dirty, there are lots of blenders out there, they would be a lot cheaper than a mixer.
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Yeah, but ultimately it's multiple signal paths, not just an A+B. I had looked at the blender you mention. If I was only doing 2 signal paths then the Mosquito Blend or the Xotic X-Blender would be perfect. I may still yet decide that I don't need 3 signal paths, at which point the X-Blender or the Boss Line Selector will probably be the way I go.
A big part of why I want to have the option for 3 lines is that I REALLY like the sound of my GK 1001RBII through my sealed tweeterless 410. A large part of what I like so much is the sound of the GK power section in the RB series. So I wanted to have the option to mic the cab as a third signal source and blend the 3 lines to send to FOH. Kind of a cross between a Geddy Lee style rig and Peter Iwers style rig.
 
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I’m that case I’d get the Boss or other blender to blend your 2 DI signals and then also get a a good mic and small stand or Ampclamp to mount the microphone to your cab.

Good Mics would be a Heil PR 40 or 30
Or Sennheiser 421 or Shure SM 57 ( believe me it’ll have plenty of low end and great aggressive / punchy mids)

And the Just asks he FOH to take your Combined DI Line and your Mic. I think this will provide you the best results sonically and if your are Providing everything the vast majority of venues / Sound guys should be able and willing to accommodate you. Unless they are just literally totaly out of channels which can happen but in my experience is as both a player an professional sound engineer (its my “day job” )
That would be pretty rare.
And then in those case that radial 2:1 XLR combined could let you combine the blended DI and Mic Signal

Still cheaper or at least smaller footprint than a full on Mixer
 
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hbabels said:
I’m that case I’d get the Boss or other blender to blend your 2 DI signals and then also get a a good mic and small stand or Ampclamp to mount the microphone to your cab.

Good Mics would be a Heil PR 40 or 30
Or Sennheiser 421 or Shure SM 57 ( believe me it’ll have plenty of low end and great aggressive / punchy mids)

And the Just asks he FOH to take your Combined DI Line and your Mic. I think this will provide you the best results sonically and if your are Providing everything the vast majority of venues / Sound guys should be able and willing to accommodate you. Unless they are just literally totaly out of channels which can happen but in my experience is as both a player an professional sound engineer (its my “day job” )
That would be pretty rare.
And then in those case that radial 2:1 XLR combined could let you combine the blended DI and Mic Signal

Still cheaper or at least smaller footprint than a full on Mixer
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Not a bad idea to pre-blend the 2 DI signals. May look into that.

Mic-wise, had been looking at an Audix D6. Will look into your suggestions though. Thanks for those. I'm definitely familiar with the SM57. Pretty much trust anything Sennheiser. Not so familiar with the Heil models.

A lot of the places I have played at have a single dedicated Bass line and a single DI, which is a big part of why I was wanting to "pre-mix" the multiple channels. That Rolls passive mixer is $56 at Amazon, so it still seems like a viable option, especially for keeping the majority of this rig based off of a small-ish pedalboard.

Thanks for all of the advice!
 
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Rickter said:
I'm trying to figure out how to run multiple signals from my pedalboard and create a "master mix" from the pedalboard to go to my amp rig and FOH. I'm looking to have a clean signal from early in the chain and a dirty signal from further down the chain and mix the two. The question I'm trying to answer is how to go about it.

Lately I have been looking the Rolls Invalid Link Removed (a passive 4 in, 1 out line level mixer) and then go out to a DI box. My other option would be to use a powered mixer such as the Rolls Invalid Link Removed that uses mic level input and output. Is the unpowered passive mixer a viable option, or not? Are there pitfalls of using that method that I am not seeing? If I go the Rolls MX310 route, then I'll need to integrate a pedalboard power supply which has a 12v option to push the mixer.

Any suggestions are appreciated.
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Possibly the Lehle RMI Basswitch IQ DI ? Invalid Link Removed
 
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How many of you guys have a Cali76 bass compressor in their Nano+ pedalboard? I'm curious about how much it's taller compared to the pedalboard? How much does it stick out of the pedalboard?
I have an Eventide H9 that is slightly taller than the board and I think the Cali76 is even taller, around 14 centimeters.
I wonder if the board fit into its own bag easily with those tall pedals.

Pictures are very much appreciated, thanks!
 
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Rickter said:
I'm trying to figure out how to run multiple signals from my pedalboard and create a "master mix" from the pedalboard to go to my amp rig and FOH. I'm looking to have a clean signal from early in the chain and a dirty signal from further down the chain and mix the two. The question I'm trying to answer is how to go about it.

Lately I have been looking the Rolls Invalid Link Removed (a passive 4 in, 1 out line level mixer) and then go out to a DI box. My other option would be to use a powered mixer such as the Rolls Invalid Link Removed that uses mic level input and output. Is the unpowered passive mixer a viable option, or not? Are there pitfalls of using that method that I am not seeing? If I go the Rolls MX310 route, then I'll need to integrate a pedalboard power supply which has a 12v option to push the mixer.

Any suggestions are appreciated.
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You need a buffered splitter. All splitters are not created equal. I recommend the Lehle P-Split II. I use 2 of them for the amp, PA, and the SY-300 synth.
 
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