Sire Bass Club!

[timmus]

I stand corrected. Here's a picture of the Sire V5 24 in the classifieds with a significant chunk missing from the headstock that I was referring to as well.

Ouch! I wonder if the previous owner was attempting to replace the tuners and this happened when they were trying to push out a bushing. I think something like this happened to @LowEndLobster when he was changing tuners in one of his videos.

EDIT: never mind...I just read his post above yours. Not the same thing I guess...

 

[CoughSyrup]

Ouch! I wonder if the previous owner was attempting to replace the tuners and this happened when they were trying to push out a bushing. I think something like this happened to @LowEndLobster when he was changing tuners in one of his videos.

Yeah, they're aftermarket Gotohs. I'm assuming he had the same problem as Lobster. This also makes me wonder if Sire is rushing to get these made so quickly that the poly on the headstock isn't fully cured by the time they're pressing in the tuner ferrules.

 

[timmus]

Yeah, they're aftermarket Gotohs. I'm assuming he had the same problem as Lobster. This also makes me wonder if Sire is rushing to get these made so quickly that the poly on the headstock isn't fully cured by the time they're pressing in the tuner ferrules.

Hard to tell...I was pressing a ferrule out of a bass headstock I was modding a few years ago and the wood splintered a bit around the hole for the E tuner (I wasn't being as careful as I should've been ).

That neck was several years old (Fender NOS neck) and I was adding a Hipshot extender tuner to the E string. I was able to repair the headstock so the splinters all but disappeared. Gotta love CA glue.

After all that, I realized the "extender" wasn't for me and out it came, I never could get used to the E string being dropped to D....muscle memory and all that. I think that extender tuner is in a junque box somewhere.

 

[Cullen G]

Exactly how deep does the color from roasting go anyway?
I would expect to see blonde maple under the roasted surface.

 

[Rod Barchetta]

Quick research via Google:

It's color is consistent all the way through.
The roasting process is performed to the raw lumber, long before it's shaped.
You may have to oil it after reshaping to match non sanded areas.

I paid nothing for this information. If someone knows better, please chime in.

 

[Cullen G]

Sorry ... I could have searched as well. I assumed this was probably known as standard. Oops

 

[Rod Barchetta]

From the forums:

Roasted Maple necks are cut from Maple wood blanks that are "baked" in high-tech ovens. This process removes moisture and all kinds of other organic "impurities" that affect the stability of the wood and make it much more rigid while adding a deep and warm amber color for a natural vintage look. The sound is tight and punchy while still retaining the natural warmth of Maple in the midrange. Roasted Maple is highly recommended for touring musicians who value neck stability while traveling.

 

[Cullen G]

Quick research via Google:

It's color is consistent all the way through.
The roasting process is performed to the raw lumber, long before it's shaped.
You may have to oil it after reshaping to match non sanded areas.

I paid nothing for this information. If someone knows better, please chime in.

IF you are correct about the color being complete through the neck, then Sire would be false advertising ut would seem?

 

[Rod Barchetta]

Maybe what you are seeing in that photo is cracking in the clear coat finish. I could be wrong about this, but it could also explain it. All we have is a photo.

I looked at the Sire website and there is color variation in most every roasted neck shown on the site.

I don't own any bass guitars with a roasted neck, but I'm interested in this topic.

 

[Nightsprinter]

Maybe what you are seeing in that photo is cracking in the clear coat finish. I could be wrong about this, but it could also explain it. All we have is a photo.

I looked at the Sire website and there is color variation in most every roasted neck shown on the site.

I don't own any bass guitars with a roasted neck, but I'm interested in this topic.

The fingerboard is coated in something too btw. I scraped it with a razor blade and dark dye came off exposing a lighter, more figured wood beneath. It came off like penetratred oils I'm guessing whatever finish they used has dye in it.

My actual neck - note the color by the chip-out.

 

[Nightsprinter]

I've seen lots of color tones for "roasted" maple. One thing I've considered is that it's roasted but comes out kinda light in color so whatever finish they apply darkens it up which could explain my photo.

I actually don't really care either way. I'm just curious about things so I usually tear stuff down to the studs to see what it's all about. So I'll be curious to know what others think.

 

[erdyland]

So you guys trying to say that sire tricked us about roasted necks?

 

[Nightsprinter]

So you guys trying to say that sire tricked us about roasted necks?

lol not me. I know nothing about this stuff. I was just curious to learn more about the process and whether this is normal or not. My gut tells me it IS roasted but they treat it to make it look more appealing. Which I'd have no problem with.

 

[Rod Barchetta]

So you guys trying to say that sire tricked us about roasted necks?

I think they use an oil dye of some type on the roasted necks and fretboard. I think this would explain it.

 

[Cullen G]

Here is my exact quote... "IF you are correct about the color being complete through the neck, then Sire would be false advertising ut would seem?"

Notice the question mark at the end?
Trying to become educated on the subject.

 

[Ottertail]

To roast maple boards and get the interior to Sire neck color, the outside of the board would have to be ash

I am confident that they’ve roasted the maple, and applied a stain to the finished necks as an aesthetic touch or as a way to easily differentiate from their non-roasted necks. I’d prefer a lighter stain, like so called “vintage tint”, but it is what it is.

 

[Cullen G]

Veeeery eenteresteeng! I'm just the opposite. I like the dark roast, lol. I'd be tickled with this any day!

 

[Cullen G]

And I did some research. I'd actually considered a V10dx fretless. Until I realized I would pay the same, but lose the beautiful abalone inlays! No dots even. Uuuuuuh, not me!
I'd get the fretted version, if the price was different. The V5 shows the only fretless fretboard you get with any Sire which isn't a dx model.

 

[Ottertail]

I like clean fretboards, but no fret/no inlays should come in at less $$

 

[Cullen G]

Yeah ... abalone is too much for some people. I better have the whole shellfish for my $1699