So, Ariel Castro is dead...

[i_got_a_mohawk]

I'm not saying that he deserves sympathy.

You'll have to excuse me there then, your posts came across (to me) as sympathetic, or empathetic, to Castro.

If this was the case he could have made a suicide attempt a long time ago.

He could have, but how long ago?

Maybe the gravity of the situation was only just starting to sink in? He was arrested less than 4 months ago and sentenced less than 5 weeks ago, he hasn't exactly been in there long.

Oh, and thank you, Mohawk, I appreciate that.

No problem, I feel many of us were included in that post and suicide is something that has had an impact on me too, it's something that certainly gets my hackles up.

 

[electracoyote]

Wish them all the best of course and hope they can go on to find happiness in life, but I have to think that after such an ordeal, their views on things like relationships, respect, trust, men, love, sex, etc., whether consciously or subconsciously, would almost have to be forever skewed. This guy took a lot more from them than the 10-11 years they were in his house.

This is the unfortunate likelihood. I always hope that the most recent victims of these kinds of crimes will beat the odds.

 

[Phil Smith]

You'll have to excuse me there then, your posts came across (to me) as sympathetic, or empathetic, to Castro.

Quite a leap here. Kind of like: "You either with us or you're with the terrorists".

 

[bassinplace]

This is the point that's confusing, he goes for the plea deal to avoid the death penalty.

Obviously he had mental problems, what normal person does a thing like this?

Obviously, no "normal" person does that. He was a coward. He exerted force over those physically weaker than him, got his come uppance, and tried to avoid death at the hands of the public. When he managed to dodge that bullet and saw his next option of prison sex staring him in the face, he killed himself to avoid it. The actions of a brutal, sadistic coward.

 

[i_got_a_mohawk]

Quite a leap here. Kind of like: "You either with us or you're with the terrorists".

Not at all meaning it in the vein of "aww man, give the guy a break, all he did was hold onto his b****s"

 

[hdracer]

I think Michelle Knight's statement says it all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl-gbIZSgqY

 

[tastybasslines]

Look people, he did not take a plea deal to avoid the death penalty. The PROSECUTORS wanted it. They wanted to spare the women being put on the stand, giving painful and horrific details and a avoid a long trial. The deal was for the benefit of the women, otherwise, they would have seeked the death penalty.

 

[MatticusMania]

Look people, he did not take a plea deal to avoid the death penalty. The PROSECUTORS wanted it. They wanted to spare the women being put on the stand, giving painful and horrific details and a avoid a long trial. The deal was for the benefit of the women, otherwise, they would have seeked the death penalty.

Could he have turned the plea deal down had he wanted to?

 

[stratovani]

Obviously, no "normal" person does that. He was a coward. He exerted force over those physically weaker than him, got his come uppance, and tried to avoid death at the hands of the public. When he managed to dodge that bullet and saw his next option of prison sex staring him in the face, he killed himself to avoid it. The actions of a brutal, sadistic coward.

Not much else I can add to this, other than - I agree.

 

[Phil Smith]

Look people, he did not take a plea deal to avoid the death penalty. The PROSECUTORS wanted it. They wanted to spare the women being put on the stand, giving painful and horrific details and a avoid a long trial. The deal was for the benefit of the women, otherwise, they would have seeked the death penalty.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/25/justice/ohio-castro

"It's safe to say (Castro) wouldn't take a deal with the death penalty," the source said.

 

[tastybasslines]

Could he have turned the plea deal down had he wanted to?

I suppose.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that the deal was more for the women than him.

 

[MatticusMania]

I suppose.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that the deal was more for the women than him.

Right, the reason it was suggested may have been more for the victims, though his reason for accepting it could have had everything to do with him avoiding the death penalty at the same time.

 

[will33]

Obviously, no "normal" person does that. He was a coward. He exerted force over those physically weaker than him, got his come uppance, and tried to avoid death at the hands of the public. When he managed to dodge that bullet and saw his next option of prison sex staring him in the face, he killed himself to avoid it. The actions of a brutal, sadistic coward.

Thanks for this.

I've always heard it pronounced as " come-up-inz " and I never knew why.

 

[1SHOT1HIT]

I'm a little confused by the need to reserve respect for this man (and others like him) simply because he's now dead.
(Here, FaceBook, and other places alike.)

Screw him. This was fantastic news.

Good, great, awesome, marvelous news!!! I hope the guy suffered miserably LONG before his final heartbeat. I hope he felt every pain filled minute/second of the noose tightening around his despicable neck as it choked the life from his filthy carcass.
The only sympathy I hold, is for the morticians who bear the burden of having to make his body look presentable, instead of just dropping him off at a local dump, waste facility, or cesspool.

It'd be a perfect week if somehow the three teens who shot the Australian jogger, along with the scum who shot that little baby, and every terrorist all died similar deaths.

Sorry I take that back, the baby shooter should get it slightly worse than all of the above.
Much slower, much more painful!


Yep....having one of those days! These people, and people like them deserve ZERO respect, or dignity.

 

[Batmensch]

That's exactly what I thought when I read the news.

He clearly can couldn't handle what he was dishing out, and I'll bet his conditions were a damn sight better than those of his victims.

Exactly my thoughts as well. What a p***y.

 

[avvie]

I wanted him to rot. There is no justice.

 

[guy n. cognito]

This is the point that's confusing, he goes for the plea deal to avoid the death penalty.

Obviously he had mental problems, what normal person does a thing like this?

"Normal people" do this every day...........

 

[growler-br]

My hopes were that he would have been executed on a pay-per-view special and all the money earned given to the victims.

 

[Indiana Mike]

I'm a little confused by the need to reserve respect for this man (and others like him) simply because he's now dead.
(Here, FaceBook, and other places alike.)

Screw him. This was fantastic news.

Good, great, awesome, marvelous news!!! I hope the guy suffered miserably LONG before his final heartbeat. I hope he felt every pain filled minute/second of the noose tightening around his despicable neck as it choked the life from his filthy carcass.
The only sympathy I hold, is for the morticians who bear the burden of having to make his body look presentable, instead of just dropping him off at a local dump, waste facility, or cesspool.

It'd be a perfect week if somehow the three teens who shot the Australian jogger, along with the scum who shot that little baby, and every terrorist all died similar deaths.

Sorry I take that back, the baby shooter should get it slightly worse than all of the above.
Much slower, much more painful!


Yep....having one of those days! These people, and people like them deserve ZERO respect, or dignity.

He was sentenced to life plus a thousand years.

He's done his life sentence. Chuck him in a hole on the prison grounds and after a thousand years see if his family wants the remains .

Good riddance.... Pure evil

 

[Texan]

Obviously, no "normal" person does that. He was a coward. He exerted force over those physically weaker than him, got his come uppance, and tried to avoid death at the hands of the public. When he managed to dodge that bullet and saw his next option of prison sex staring him in the face, he killed himself to avoid it. The actions of a brutal, sadistic coward.

I agree. He was no longer in control of anything. The tables turned and he was the one at the mercy of his keepers.

Tastybasslines has a point when he said that this was Castro's way of exerting his last act of control, but I have to wonder if Castro really had the reasoning ability to consciously come to this conclusion.

In this case, IMO, his suicide was because was would never be in control of any aspect of his life ever again, he took the cowards way out. There is no way that we can compare Castro's suicide to family and friends that have committed suicide because of depression, alcohol or drugs. In those cases they may have been able to get help and live a fulfilling life.

In the end I really think and hope that he was gang raped the day that he was released into the general population and this drove him to hang. He deserved it.