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So who does NOT have a VT Bass?

#141
I'm constantly going back and forth between my VT Bass Deluxe and Tone Hammer. The Tone Hammer does 90% of what the VT Bass does, and a whole bunch of things it can't do. I use the VT bass when I want a slightly more edgy, clanky sound which it does in spades thanks to that gawkingly high upper-mid peak that is baked in and nearly impossible to remove no matter how far you dip the treble knob. :D

The Tone Hammer does a MUCH, MUCH better B15 tone than the VT Bass though. Since that's usually where I'm heading, that's why I use it over the VT.

Both are excellent pedals. I'm curious to find out what the new VT Bass DI brings to the table. I might sell my Deluxe at some point (since I don't need the presets really) and try out the new version. However, for right now, if I had to choose just one pedal it would be the Tone Hammer without question.
 
#142
For my Traynor - it's absolutely not needed. For use with my Overton or for DI - I find the ART Tube MP's (Especially the Studio V3) absolutely perfect for damn near everything.

They have great headroom - and get that nice sag when you push it just a bit, not to mention that you can change out the stock 12AX7 to either something with a little more grit, or my favorite - a 5751 and get great old-school vibe.

Not to mention - can find the basic model for under $40. (the Studio V3 - found mine on amazon for $60)
 
#143
I have had one in the past and found it redundant to the BDDI and got rid of it pretty quickly. I also recently got rid of the second BDDI I have had in about the last 15 years and find myself without one of these pedals at all anymore. Now I use the B7K, I just sold about 4 other pedals and bit the bullet and bought one, very versatile and transparent and works really well in a variety of different applications.

IMO, the VT BASS and the BDDI color the sound in a way where its instantly recognizable at any setting, not very transparent. You need "hardcore in a box" or "Tool in a box" you get one of these. Great if you play in a lot of rehearsal rooms or are in situations where you use a lot of backlines, share gear or use various amps and want to have consistent control over your sound, as long as you like having THAT sound, as soon as you turn it on you get that "mid halo" around everything. Its also noisy on a pedalboard.
 
#144
No never owned one - I presume this pedal is no different than 99% of the pedals introduced here on TB: it gets rave reviews, everyone goes out and buys one, tries them then flips it. Some end up keeping them, a majority flip them. No matter how you slice it it's still S/S electronics trying to emulate a tube. Get close but no cigar. Tube saturation is a sweet sound once you experience the real thing.
 
#145
xray said:
No never owned one - I presume this pedal is no different than 99% of the pedals introduced here on TB: it gets rave reviews, everyone goes out and buys one, tries them then flips it. Some end up keeping them, a majority flip them. No matter how you slice it it's still S/S electronics trying to emulate a tube. Get close but no cigar. Tube saturation is a sweet sound once you experience the real thing.
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Stop reminding me dangit. I believe you you completely. But I can't afford a tube head. I want one bad.
 
#146
xray said:
No never owned one - I presume this pedal is no different than 99% of the pedals introduced here on TB: it gets rave reviews, everyone goes out and buys one, tries them then flips it. Some end up keeping them, a majority flip them. No matter how you slice it it's still S/S electronics trying to emulate a tube. Get close but no cigar. Tube saturation is a sweet sound once you experience the real thing.
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Respectfully, I think you've missed it on this one then. No one has ever said the pedal is a 100% replacement for a tube head that I can recall. What people have said is how remarkably close it can get to the real thing. It's very close and deserves a cigar. Considering how many of these are out there, I don't think there is anywhere close to a majority of owners flipping them.

I have experienced the real thing. Love my pedals.
 
#148
M4verick said:
I'm a quite happy owned of the Sansamp BDDI preset on the SvT settings (boosted bass, lowered treble, full blend, moderate gain) and I really love thatsound (as - to my ear - it makes a nice difference difference between high and lows).

I was wondering is there any reason switching to Sansamp VT for the sound ?
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I've been asked the same question and I believe that having the speaker simulator on/off is the only advantage I can see on VT.
 
#150
Eublet said:
I'm constantly going back and forth between my VT Bass Deluxe and Tone Hammer. The Tone Hammer does 90% of what the VT Bass does, and a whole bunch of things it can't do. I use the VT bass when I want a slightly more edgy, clanky sound which it does in spades thanks to that gawkingly high upper-mid peak that is baked in and nearly impossible to remove no matter how far you dip the treble knob. :D
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Hmmm, in that case maybe I'm searching for a different solution for two guitars, not a big fan of brightness. Know approximately where the peak is in Hz?

Oh well, might need a second Tone Hammer :bassist:
 
#151
Bakkster_Man said:
Hmmm, in that case maybe I'm searching for a different solution for two guitars, not a big fan of brightness. Know approximately where the peak is in Hz?

Oh well, might need a second Tone Hammer :bassist:
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There's a few threads here that show the scopes of the VT. Might want to do a search, but I think it was around 3.2khz. I'd think one of their other Character pedals might be a good solution for you on a guitar.
 
#152
HuntYouDown said:
I'm with this guy!
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+1 Yeah I don't use any pedals either, other than my stage tuner which dosen't count.
Lucky for me the bass sound I am after is pretty simple to get, a Fender with flatwounds played through a GK. :bassist:

I have noticed that everyone on here seems to have and rave about it though. I guess it is supposed to emulate an Ampeg, since I never desired having an Ampeg I guess I never desired having the pedal either. :hiding:
 
#155
Eublet said:
There's a few threads here that show the scopes of the VT. Might want to do a search, but I think it was around 3.2khz. I'd think one of their other Character pedals might be a good solution for you on a guitar.
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Meant a second bass. Only wanted a VTDeluxe for the preset switching. If I won't get tone I like, I would just get a second Tone Hammer, probably.

I'll dig around and see what I can find.
 
#157
Bakkster_Man said:
Meant a second bass. Only wanted a VTDeluxe for the preset switching. If I won't get tone I like, I would just get a second Tone Hammer, probably.

I'll dig around and see what I can find.
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Oh, I misunderstood you then. The VT sounds great to me, but that's subjective. It's much brighter and clankier than the Tone Hammer. I have to boost the Treble on my TH well over 3 o'clock to come close to the VT. It's just hard to get warm, treble-attenuated tones out of the VT though. That attack is always up there for some reason.

A 2nd Tone Hammer is a good idea though if you already love it and just need a 2nd preset. Combine it with an A/B pedal and it could work well.

IMHO, if Aguilar ever made a programmable Tone Hammer I would just die instantly from sheer excitement. The versatility of the preamp combined with programmable settings would be too much for me. The only reason I don't use the presets on my VT Deluxe is because I just don't find that the VT is useful for much more than a couple of very similar (and super fantastic sounding) tones. The TH on the other hand can affect very drastic tonal changes that all sound great to me. I don't think a design like that is Aguilar's style though, so I don't spend too much time thinking about it.
 
#160
I<34080 said:
I have an SVT, I don't need one.
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<sigh>....a lot of VT Bass users are avid SVT owners, and they love the VT Bass. There are many reasons why, not the least of which is the ability to use the VT Bass to get that super saturated SVT-style overdrive and tone (running it through your real SVT even) without having to push the SVT to insane volumes to get it. It sounds fantastic. It also lets you send a DI out of the VT Bass to get that tone into the PA without having to convince a sound man to mic your cab. It opens up a ton of possibilities.
 

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