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Something weird with Warrior factory?

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Ugh. Kind of silly this is a thread now. I tried keeping everything on the DL with Pendulla-2007 by private conversation. I was the fellow looking to purchase the pfunk bass. Not being familiar with Warriors at all I reached out to them directly for information. No disrespect but I received two notifications from Warrior that bass did not leave Warrior as shown. Further more they never made a signature PFunk bass. Anyone call reach out to them directly. I did and they responded in a day. The last contact was from J Dran. Best guess is this bass was in Warriors words “refinished”. Cool bass either way. My guess is Pendulla-2007 did not investigate this before his purchase.
 
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mike o said:
Ugh. Kind of silly this is a thread now. I tried keeping everything on the DL with Pendulla-2007 by private conversation. I was the fellow looking to purchase the pfunk bass. Not being familiar with Warriors at all I reached out to them directly for information. No disrespect but I received two notifications from Warrior that bass did not leave Warrior as shown. Further more they never made a signature PFunk bass. Anyone call reach out to them directly. I did and they responded in a day. The last contact was from J Dran. Best guess is this bass was in Warriors words “refinished”. Cool bass either way. My guess is Pendulla-2007 did not investigate this before his purchase.
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That’s really helpful info. I wouldn’t want to call the thread silly, but that’s just my opinion. I think people just want to help OP out, and folks are concerned he might be in a bad spot.

EDIT: Dumb question. Do Warmoth bodies have serial numbers?
 
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BBQisgood said:
That’s really helpful info. I wouldn’t want to call the thread silly, but that’s just my opinion. I think people just want to help OP out, and folks are concerned he might be in a bad spot.

EDIT: Dumb question. Do Warmoth bodies have serial numbers?
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They do not have serial numbers IME. They have a pic of a turtle at the heel with Warmoth printed there.
 
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I was trying to help the OP myself by sharing all my emails to/from Warrior. Understandably he wasn’t too happy and assumed I had ill intent.
BBQisgood said:
That’s really helpful info. I wouldn’t want to call the thread silly, but that’s just my opinion. I think people just want to help OP out, and folks are concerned he might be in a bad spot.

EDIT: Dumb question. Do Warmoth bodies have serial numbers?
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shnapper said:
Not sure why folks on here are thinking a builder shouldn’t, couldn’t, can’t or not at least identify there own product after 20 years if someone at the company still remains after 2 decades.

Hopefully it gets sorted out regardless of authenticity it’s important from a “classifieds” point of view. There’s a ton of basses for sale, trade, sell or trade and who knows what is what….
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Not sure why anyone in this thread is taking OP serious. He provides two incomplete and ridiculous photos, in an attempt to trash talk a company with a great reputation. Whether Warrior (or any other company) should be able to identify a bass 20+ years after, or not, isn't relevant in this thread, as OP is obviously trolling.
 
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InnerCityBass said:
Not sure why anyone in this thread is taking OP serious. He provides two incomplete and ridiculous photos, in an attempt to trash talk a company with a great reputation. Whether Warrior (or any other company) should be able to identify a bass 20+ years after, or not, isn't relevant in this thread, as OP is obviously trolling.
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Since the subject of Warrior being "a company with a great reputation" has been brought up, I thought I'd share my experience with one. Last December a bassist at a local megachurch contacted me about some repair and setup work on a couple of his basses, as we have a mutual friend I had done some guitar setups for. I replaced the jack on his Kubicki, then went to set up his Warrior 6. When I initially played it the action was super high, so I went to work on the truss rods. Even after adjusting the neck perfectly flat the outer strings (B & C) were about 7mm abover the last fret with the bridge adjusted all the way down. Since it was a neck through instrument, the only solution I could see was routing a cavity for the bridge to sit in, but the player didn't want that done and said he was happy with the action being where it was. Even so, the idea that you couldn't get the action any lower is a serious build defect IMO.
As icing on the cake, notice the butcher job on the control cavity cover. I asked the player about it and he told me he bought the base new and it had never been worked on.
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InnerCityBass said:
Not sure why anyone in this thread is taking OP serious. He provides two incomplete and ridiculous photos, in an attempt to trash talk a company with a great reputation. Whether Warrior (or any other company) should be able to identify a bass 20+ years after, or not, isn't relevant in this thread, as OP is obviously trolling.
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Praying you find peace, I forgive you.
 
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OK, take a breath, man.

When you get to the point that you're using forgiveness as a snarky way if saying that someone is getting on your nerves, I take issue with that.

Yes, some of the posts in this thread have been sparky as well. I get it.

These are the facts.

No manufacturer has an obligation to anyone to keep records of their builds. It's a common practice, but not required.

There is a very real chance that neither of your basses were ever touched by a Warrior employee. I'm not saying this is for sure. But it's a possibility you won't acknowledge. You summarily dismissed anyone who mentioned this as a possibility.

Nobody on this forum so far can point to any other bass made by Warrior that looks like yours. Honestly, the body of the bass in the first pic smacks of Warmoth to me.... and, apparently several others here.

You may have been taken. You might have been scammed. There's a chance that the reason nobody at Warrior will acknowledge your bass is that they didn't make it.

Here's the kind of experiment that could work. With grace and humility, find someone else on this forum who owns a more typical Warrior bass.... Have them email Warrior regarding details of their build. If Warrior responds to them with detailed info on the build, odds are your basses weren't made by them. Why would Warrior answer their question, but not yours?

Here's the link for a Warrior Club here at TalkBass. Maybe one of those guys will try it for you.

Warrior Club Part 2
 
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So wonderful that Talkbass offers an ignore option, so I don’t have to read those having a bad day, or for whatever reason they want to post negativity. Many thanks to those who have made an effort to add light or humor to what I believed was a harmless thread, and to those that have added objective and constructive input, thank you.
 
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pedulla-2007 said:
So wonderful that Talkbass offers an ignore option, so I don’t have to read those having a bad day, or for whatever reason they want to post negativity. Many thanks to those who have made an effort to add light or humor to what I believed was a harmless thread, and to those that have added objective and constructive input, thank you.
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Seriously, no one has been abusive in this thread. They just aren't saying things you want to hear. Get over it.
 
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pedulla-2007 said:
A picture was sent of one bass by a member wanting info about the bass. The factory replied they had no recollection of the bass . It wasn’t a definite No, we didn’t build it, but, they just didn’t remember of the build 21 years ago. Today, I sent them a picture of my other Warrior bass, asking an estimated value, and there answer was, that I would have to send it in for an appraisal because it wasn’t original. Now, what are the chances of me buying 2 different basses that they say, were heavily modified. Second question, who heavily modifies 3400.00 basses from the factory. I smell something rotten from that factory? Why don’t they own up to their builds?
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You're a non-original owner asking a small boutique shop about 20 year old basses? Good luck with that. When I worked for a small boutique acoustic builder, I could hardly have told you what we put out the previous month, never mind anything 20 years old. And we would have never given you an appraisal, we would have referred you to a retailer for that. The most we could do would be to hunt through the file cabinets and try and find the build sheet to give you the list price at the time of sale...if and only if you were the original owner.
 
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